Hi all,
Here are some pictures from my winter-grafts.
Seeds were sown a little over 2 months ago, so most of the grafts are around 1-2 months old now.
They are just starting to show their true caracters.
Many seeds come from members in this forum - I would like to thank you all for your contributions!
Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanys X retusus cv. maruibo:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/22.jpg)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1251.jpg)
Ariocarpus retusus cv. trefinger:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1230.jpg)
Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko koh-yo:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1232.jpg)
Ariocarpus retusus cv. cauliflower:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1243.jpg)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1244.jpg)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1249.jpg)
Ariocarpus retusus x fissuratus cv. godzilla:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1246.jpg)
Ariocarpus fissuratus cv. godzilla:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1250.jpg)
Ariocarpus fissuratus cv. godzilla royal x coral:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1256.jpg)
Astrophytum ornatum cv. hannya:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1267.jpg)
Ariocarpus retusus cv. maruibo cauliflower x cauliflower:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1236.jpg)
Ariocarpus (scapharostrus x retusus v. pectinatus) x (confusus x scapharostrus):
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1257.jpg)
Ariocarpus retusus cv. cauliflower x fissuratus cv. godzilla:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1260.jpg)
Ariocarpus fissuratus cv. godzilla D4 x godzilla coral:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1238.jpg)
Ariocarpus furfuraceus cv. magnificus x (retusus v. pectinatus x scapharostrus):
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1248.jpg)
Ariocarpus retusus cv. cauliflower variegata?
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1253.jpg)
The setup:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1239.jpg)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1270.jpg)
Dan
Great work Dan! Keep it up!
Congratulations Dan, good job! ;)
Good job, Dan. Very promising Ariocarpus crossings.
Thank you all!
I will update when the plants get bigger. I have made around 400 grafts this winter, so I hope to see at least a few outstanding cultivars grow up...
Dan
compliments
good setting= wonderful hervest! :)
compliments Dan, a greath work, good luck!
Nice job Dan, I admire your work.
I would like to know a few things about your micro greenhouse and you method
1. Are you using special fluorescent tubes for light or normal ones (are they with special spectrum for plants growing) and how many of them are you using per squared meter?
2. How about the temperature, is there a special device for heating and what is the optimal temperature inside?
3. After how much time are you planning to regraft your plants (I assume that pereskiopsis is not permanent).
4. I can see that you have Pereskiopsis velutina and spathulata. Which one do you think is better?
Thank you for sharing the information.
P.S. I'm trying to find some Ariocarpus cultivares seeds to buy but I can't find any. Do you guys know any source? Thank you.
Hi Lucian,
Thank you.
1. No, I use normal 36watt ligtning tubes. I don't find any reason to buy the special grow-tubes. Just make sure that you buy normal light tubes in "Cool white" colour.
2. The temperature in the growchamber is only generated from the lights. It gets around 30-35C, so there is no need for extra heating. The setup is places in my basement where the environment is around 15C.
3. I usually regraft in spring - by this time the grafts are still fairly small and easy to handle. When I do this, I leave a little bit of ariocarpus tissue on the stock, so it can shoot out new pups for regrafting next year. However, pereskiopsis can work as a permanent stock, it just slow down the growth after some years.
4. I don't find any difference in the species - they both give the same growth.
I hope this helps. If you have any more questions, then just let me know (:
Dan
Thank you very much for the answers Dan, I really appreciate it, keep us updated with the evolution of the plants.
Lucian.
No problem Lucian, I hope you have good luck with your grafts. Let me know if you have any other questions (:
Dan
Great work Dan, Arios are very promising!
Here are some of my winter graftings:
Onzuka
Sulcorebutia candiae a pale one, the others are brown-green
Digitostigma caput medusae the same seedling: top half and bottom half grafted upside-down.
And two more: these are asterias kikko x ornatum. The second one is strange, let's see it in the future!
Andrea.
Nice work!
How old are the plants?
Dan
Hi Andrea, great result! The last is very promising, let us review when he grew up.
Hi Dan & Andrea.a
Beautiful grafted plants that look promising.
great post and photos! compliments guys!
Thanks to all!!!
Digitostigma and Sulcorebutia sown 19 07 2012 and grafted 02 08 2012
Onzuka and asterisa kikko x ornatum sown 07 09 2012 and grafted 24 09 2012
Andrea.
Dan, I have one more question if you don't mind. Are you using the same setup (heat and light) for the sowing too? I know that a temperature over between 25 and 30 degrees Celsius is optimal for a good germination.
Thanks.
Lucian.
Hi Lucian,
Yes, I also use this setup for sowing. You are right about the temperature. I always place the pots so the temperature is around 30C. At night time I place the pots in my greenhouse where the temperature is 10C... The shift in temperature from day to night is also a good way to get higher germination.
Dan
Here is an update on some of the best plants so far:
Ariocarpus retusus cv. cauliflower:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1462.jpg)
Ariocarpus retusus cv. maruibo cauliflower x cauliflower:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1459.jpg)
Ariocarpus fissuratus cv. godzilla from 3 different seed sources:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1447.jpg)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1446.jpg)
Astrophytum ornatum cv. hannya:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1439.jpg)
Ariocarpus retusus x fissuratus cv. godzilla:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/35.jpg)
Ariocarpus retusus cv. trefinger x multifinger:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/28.jpg)
Ariocarpus (scapharostrus x retusus v. pectinatus) x (confusus x scapharostrus):
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/1-2.jpg)
Dan
Amazing plants Dan, congratulations.
Great work Dan they are all going to be very nice plants.
I particularly like the last one(cause the seed came from me Ha ha!). And it shows characteristics I was aiming for with the crossings, dark colour(from scaph and confusus(purple form)) and wooly groove from pect plus the boat shaped tubercles of scaph.
But jokes aside all of them are really awesome work mate!
Thank you Simon (:
I have several grafts from that cross, and they all seem to develop very strong pectinatus stripes. I'm quite exited to see how they develop as they get larger.
Dan
Hallo, here are some updates and a couple of new:
some more
..and finally:
Hi ALL, very nice grafts...
Hi Marazz53, thank you!
The plants are a bit more than 3 months old from seed now.
From the top:
Ariocarpus agavoides variegata hybrid
Astrophytum onzuka cv. kikko
Ariocarpus fissuratus x kotschoubeyanus v. elephantidens
Ariocarpus confusus x retusus cv. cauliflower.
keep it up guys. you are really good! =)
retusus cv. cauliflower...
hello Dan, wonderful view!
Do you make all the grafts before winter or do you do them during wintertime too?
Because we grafted on peresk but since peresk grow very fast under lights and they are all water seedlings do not attach as well as in summer. Any advices about it? Do you put the grafts under the lights when you just have done them or later?
thanks
Hi C+D,
Thanks alot. Many of the plants came from your seeds (:
I always graft in late september / early october, so I take the pereskiopsis direct from the greenhouse, and graft on them. After the graft is made, they are left in normal daylight in the aquarium (no electric light and no direct sunlight) for 14-18 days. After that they go under the lights for the entire winter. The seedlings don't see any real sunlight before they are around 6 months old.
I have never grafted on pereskiopsis in the wintertime.
Have you tried to keep the pereskiopsis dry for 3-4 days before grafting? that usually give better attachment to the stock if you have problems with floating seedlings.
Dan
hello Dan and thanks!
Yes we dried the peresk for 3-4 days before graft, but once we put the seedling on it the peresk continues to bring liquids to the top.
We never had this problem during summer, but in winter they grow very fast and it's a bit more difficult to graft on them.
At first my grafts would always end up with a weak/thin connection because the vascular pressure would just push the scion. The way I got over this issue is using a cling wrap method to keep the high humidity and constant pressure on the join resulting in constant results. I have a much higher success rate and don't need to place the pereskiopsis into a high humidity chamber. There is also no need to 'dry' the pereskiopsis a few days before as the pressure of the wrap prevents the scion from moving and getting pushed off. However this method does take a little longer than just placing on top and with the large amount of grafts you guys perform may take longer.
Here is a youtube video depicting the method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HPe6qCEG3mc#!
Nice video, interesting method.
Andrea.
Great video! Worth A try for sure.
Dan
some of our winter grafts on selenicereus:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-tnOm2TrIXFY/UPLYX41oEUI/AAAAAAAAIXU/7AQJ_RPFl-c/s628/110120131646.jpg)
Very nice work! Keep us updated!
Dan
thank a lot Dan!
well this is the problem we met with peresk, that's why we are using mostly selenicereus during winter, but we want to solve this problem.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4zfPhCPDNlU/UPbW59KxaYI/AAAAAAAAIY4/qKtw97vh488/s509/160120131648.jpg)
as you can see the cuts are dried even after one hour.
so we leave them cicatrize and will do the grafts next week, what do you think?
Hello, sometimes I had your same problem, and I redid the grafting ten days later with excellent results. When the persk. have too much sap, I fixed the scion with the Parafilm and the problem is solved.
Hi Dan, Ariocarpus interesting, thanks for showing them.
How much ariocarpus tissue on the stock, 2 - 3 m/m, more ?
Hi Carlo & Daniele , thanks for your information, that is? dry environment, effect lamps or vegetative stop Pereskiopsis.
You know the cause?
Best regards.
maybe it's because under lamps they grow faster than in summer and tissues are more soft. When you cut they lose a part of liquid very quicky. what do you think?
That seem very strange to me. After you have done the graft, how long do you keep them under high humidity? If I place my grafts under the lights too soon, I will get the same results... But if your method work in the summertime, it must be something else.
Dan
Quote from: Fran64 on Wednesday, 16 January 2013 - 21:58:40
Hi Dan, Ariocarpus interesting, thanks for showing them.
How much ariocarpus tissue on the stock, 2 - 3 m/m, more ?
I leave 80% of the seedling. I guess that is around 1-4mm when they are a few weeks old.
Dan
Quote from: danskibsted on Thursday, 17 January 2013 - 07:35:27
That seem very strange to me. After you have done the graft, how long do you keep them under high humidity? If I place my grafts under the lights too soon, I will get the same results... But if your method work in the summertime, it must be something else.
Dan
hello Dan, we never met this problem in summertime (or autumn when we make some grafts for winter). We left peresk in a box with high humidity for 3-5 days in the greenhouse. Doing that in winter and keeping the peresk in a close box with 20°C they produce liquid that push the scion away (even if we did not water the stocks for 3-4 days before doing the graft). So we tried doing the grafts and put them immediately under the light maintaining humid the environment and it worked quite well.
We will try to graft on these peresk with cut apex next week and keep you updated.
I don't know if this is the cause but I have found that when I do grafts and keep them humid while the atmospheric pressure is dropping because of a low pressure system approaching then they will produce a flow of sap like what you mention. This happens both in winter or summer especially when there is a sudden change from fine warm weather to cool raining weather. It is the only time I have seen pereskiopsis do this. So now I keep an eye on the long range weather forecast when I am planning to graft pereskiopsis and avoid doing it when a change is coming, it stopped the problem.
C+D: This sounds mysterious! Keep us updated, and lets hope it helps. How is your procedure when you graft on selenicereus? I have tried it some times with the same method as pereskiopsis, but it never seem to work :(
Simon: Thanks for the information, I have actually never thought of this before! This autumn I had some floating seedlings eventhough the pereskiopsis was dry, so maybe the weather was to blame. I will keep an eye out for that in the future.
Dan
will make the grafts soon!
for the moment we show you some other grafts from this winter:
echino horiz white spines:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--JwAi3KFU-I/UQA7IJl9BZI/AAAAAAAAIeE/s_Y8HjxoElo/s640/230120131737.jpg)
a nice ario, sorry for the bad quality photo
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0xqUj7YzWiA/UQA7HfD-LUI/AAAAAAAAIeE/1Ph8hOp6_a0/s512/230120131739.jpg)
discocactus petr-halfari
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vGGX1GtuDik/UQA7Hxt_ViI/AAAAAAAAIeE/kvOnWq5wp6I/s576/230120131741.jpg)
unlabelled onzuka crossing
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-czNk3H_EnHU/UQA7JoxhkTI/AAAAAAAAIeE/9n1iixE7NEg/s576/230120131742.jpg)
hanazono
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5-Bv4fNw0TE/UQA7KJZ4iYI/AAAAAAAAIeE/8hHSlTEqlqA/s576/230120131743.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FPeuOgCcU2g/UQA7KgbNdWI/AAAAAAAAIeE/WGVEmEX1QZ0/s576/230120131744.jpg)
Good work! How old are they?
hello Dan! They are about 1 month and a half, the echinoc less.
Hi C&D, Lovely plants. In my opinion, for only 1 and a half months for that Ariocarpus from seeds, is an excellent result... Congrats...
I agree with Mario, that is very good growth for at plant at that age. Keep us updated on the progress.
I will try to take some pictures of my wintergrafts this weekend.
Dan
I agree!! Nice plants, very nice and fast growing!
Sometime I have that problem of the stock making a drop of liquid after grafting.
And the strange thing is that it happens in different ways and results: last month in the same pot I had 4 peresks, all grafted in the same morning, 2 produced a drop of liquid around the sciones and 2 none at all, i did nothing and now they are all ok, now I cannot see which one was dry and which wet, in the same morning I grafted 12 other seedlings whith good results.
Some weeks before in another pot (only one one among 5) all the peresks produced a lot of liquid and I had to regraft the sciones, two died.
This morning I grafted 7 more seedlings, but this time I prepared the stocks differently: they were out of the hot and illuminated box for a week, maybe they are now a little more "quite", the surface of the cutting was less wet, and I used some "leaf glue" from peresk, as showed in modern.shaman's video.
Let's go on experimenting new methods, and let's share results! Too many different conditions around the world to have only one method!
Andrea.
Hello, we made some other grafts on the peresk with cut apex; in the same pot with 3 peresk two are ok and 1 made a drop of liquid, it's very strange...
Two days after grafting there is not any drop on the cuttings, and the sciones are perfectly turgid. When I used to keep Peresks in hot and illuminated box untill 1 hour before grafting, the sciones become a bit "dry", even if they were put in a high humidity condition. I suppose this drastic change in temperature and light conditions may have caused too stress in the stocks. Maybe with this one week rest before grafting the sciones will start growing faster.
Andrea.
Here is an update on some of the plants:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1728_zps86b1a471.jpg)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1720_zpsf78b0ddd.jpg)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1729_zpsf01e8c3a.jpg)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1724_zps10ae376a.jpg)
Retusus cv. multifinger x trefinger
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1733_zpsd77e38f4.jpg)
Retusus cv. cauliflower:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1737_zps9b078bfa.jpg)
Dan
Wow! nice forest! and the last one looks promising
Update of Reply #41:
these are the peresk with cut apex posted some time ago.
we waited ten days before doing the grafts and now it's how they look after one week:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Fj02j01jPKg/UQ_mIbIxA4I/AAAAAAAAIhg/gjfUdf-5IT4/s581/040220131753.jpg)
we just put the grafts in the same place as all the others under the lamps, sprinkling the other grafts from time to time to mantain humidity.
% rate is 15 out of 15 :)
Hi C&D, I asked you a question, I repeat. Is your grafted Ariocarpus on pereskiopsis only 1 and a half months old from seeds?
hello Mario, we didn't record the exact date but when the photo was taken the plant was about 2 months old, considering we graft about one two week after it germinates.
Hi C&D, do you mean from seed, till now, as the photo is, 1 and a half months old. Did I get you right? Thanks.
Hello Mario, yes, 1 month an a half on peresk + 1-2 weeks on own roots.
Of course not all the grafts had the same growth.
Hi C&D, thanks.
Astrophytum coahuilense cv. tricostatum X kikko, showing good results.
That is a super looking plant, Dan, and shows lots of potential for the future. Did you do the cross pollenation yourself, or did you buy the hybrid seeds?
Steve
Thank you Steve. I grafted around 10 plants from this cross, and 25-30% show very good kikko signs already.
I got the seeds from a good friend who did the pollination from his own motherplants.
Dan
OMG that is super!
cv frumdosus
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4SEkvb8_9A4/UTJDdTkVhoI/AAAAAAAAIr4/RgvPUO2pU0A/s509/010320131800.jpg)
do you think tubercles will grow quite big?
Amazing! Great work
Making the first re-grafts today:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1809_zps890eb555.jpg)
The best godzilla so far. For some reason it grow alot faster than the others:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1813_zpsd4f909c9.jpg)
Mituibo cauliflower:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1800_zps0bceba42.jpg)
Kotschoubeyanus hybrid:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1804_zpsc75bce25.jpg)
Fukuryu cristata?
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1821_zpsff8f0168.jpg)
multifinger x trefinger:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1817_zps6c67564e.jpg)
This one came in a packet of godzilla seeds... any idea what it is?
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_1824_zps327eae83.jpg)
The plants are nearly 6 months old now, and soon they will go in the greenhouse
Enjoy!
Dan
Hi Danskibsted , good job, my growing interest in the Aryans.
The undocumented, seems one tricho pasacana.
Regards.
great plants Dan! the godzilla is very marked, and the crest is also good looking!
Thank you both!
The godzilla come from your seeds Daniele (:
Dan
The hybrid kotschoubeyanus with ?
I correct the "pasacana" ::) ! Melocactus ..... variegated
Thanks Dan
They are all very beautiful and are a real credit to you.
I really like that odd Godzilla and the kotschouybeyanus hybrids too!
Thank you guys.
I dont know who is the father of the kot. Seeds. Maybe agavoides?
Dan
another interesting ario:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QGueBWuRtv8/UVRfJVN40XI/AAAAAAAAI3g/kFT2sNmwxRM/s541/280320131852.jpg)
Dan : Congratulations, your grafts are very beautiful!
CeD : Another promising plant !
@ Karlet: thanks a lot
@ Dan: that godzilla is really good ;)
a woolly asterias:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7SM8mtu9BHM/UVxiGUPYMzI/AAAAAAAAI6E/jBO-Pkgodas/s581/030420131860.jpg)
and another interesting ario:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ufSQWyMSjoQ/UVxiLdw-EqI/AAAAAAAAI6M/pYa38N7tQWc/s509/030420131862.jpg)
A. kotschoubeyanus x retusus cv. maruibo
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_2150_zps3286b984.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/IMG_2150_zps3286b984.jpg.html)
Some "fruits" from last winter grafts:
and..
Amazing! great work (:
Dan
Here is an update on how the plants are doing, 10 months after sowing. All the good plants has been regrafted to smalller harrisia and trichocereus stocks:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_2447_zps348e289e.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/IMG_2447_zps348e289e.jpg.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_2448_zps99437383.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/IMG_2448_zps99437383.jpg.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_2452_zpse8e9ca1b.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/IMG_2452_zpse8e9ca1b.jpg.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_2451_zps6a516413.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/IMG_2451_zps6a516413.jpg.html)
Others are still growing on their original stock:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/IMG_2476_zps7bc2a22a.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/IMG_2476_zps7bc2a22a.jpg.html)
Dan
Wow! What a sight! - better than any word I can think of!! :)
Amazing plants!!! Great work, You must be very happy!!!
Andrea.
Dan, the man! Absolutely legendary effort!
great work! love it!
It's time to start all over again... This year I discarded my old aquarium, and decided to use IKEA storage boxes instead. So far it seems to work fine.
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto3_zps0bf52efd.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto3_zps0bf52efd.jpg.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto11_zps6ca76a0b.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto11_zps6ca76a0b.jpg.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto2_zpsa5497897.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto2_zpsa5497897.jpg.html)
More (and better) pictures will follow as the plants start to develop.
Dan
Exciting times seem to be coming for you, right? :) And for the other forumers as well if you'll keep us informed!
Great job Dan! Hard work does not scare you, you are great!
Hard work yes! And also a sustained and intense focus on a goal that is now inevitable... \O/
Thank you all!
This is just the start - I still have many grafts to do before I'm finished for this year (:
Dan
I also have a lo-o-o-ot of grafts to do this autumn and winter. The earler grafts develop nicely, I hope to get a lot of interesting plants.
The weather here is pretty cold already - fe we had -3 C this morning (the grass is still white, an hour after the sunrise). A couple of days ago, I moved all my young grafts, growing stocks and young seedlings into house as the the temperature in my greenhouse is already lower than optimal for the good growth of seedlings and tiny grafts.
This is how one lot of 6 week old grafts looks like now
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/augpook.JPG)
...and this is a pot with grafts made less than an hour ago.
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/septpook.JPG)
Amazing results after 6 weeks! Are you going to grow them under lights all winter?
Dan
Quote from: danskibsted on Thursday, 26 September 2013 - 07:29:06
Are you going to grow them under lights all winter?
Yes, that's my plan.
Sounds like a good plan. Keep us updated!
Dan (:
Very nice result, congratulations!
here they are, our new winter grafts!
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TBxwLoaFWK4/Uo-Ua_gRLhI/AAAAAAAAMwI/yR7Wm_mUADY/w884-h576-no/20131116_142839.jpg)
Very nice!
Keep us updated!
Dan
Wow, great!! :)
Update! the plants are 2,5-3 months old now, and they start to show their true character:
Ariocarpus retusus cv. maruibo. Many plants from this seed-packet show monstrose growth:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto4_zpsfe19a167.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto4_zpsfe19a167.png.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/a8_zps1f94dd40.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/a8_zps1f94dd40.png.html)
Ariocarpus retusus v. cauliflower:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto3_zps5d60e96e.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto3_zps5d60e96e.png.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto1_zpsf4cac9ba.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto1_zpsf4cac9ba.jpg.html)
Echinocactus horizonthalonius v. nicholii from waterman mountains, Arizona. This plant show crested offsets:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/a4_zps2ffa699e.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/a4_zps2ffa699e.png.html)
Ariocarpus fissuratus cv. godzilla:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/a9_zps36ebfda8.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/a9_zps36ebfda8.png.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/a7_zps88c0c937.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/a7_zps88c0c937.png.html)
Dan
Dan - great is the work indeed you're doing!! :)
wowowow! love maruibo and echinocactus!!!
I got this plant from a bag of superkabuto seeds... I'm wondering if it could be an ornatum kikko?
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/22_zps2d6a4723.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/22_zps2d6a4723.png.html)
Dan
Could be, could be indeed! And even if it's not, something interesting is growing anyway... :)
Great plants Dan!!!
two of my favorites, godzilla royal:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto1_zps34d0e8a0.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto1_zps34d0e8a0.png.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto2_zpsc6645a2a.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto2_zpsc6645a2a.png.html)
Dan
Nicer than any word I can think of! :o
the first one is great Dan!
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ipWu5ZSJP2o/UtWJM478n3I/AAAAAAAAM50/U2BIYaUUu38/w628-h576-no/20140114_191327.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gD4P-y90ynM/UtWJOOdn_LI/AAAAAAAAM6A/8AgTyZFSuhI/w628-h576-no/20140114_191348.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gAH3Q2ZnWxU/UtWJUPhmsbI/AAAAAAAAM6k/_v96BrkFhXY/w590-h576-no/20140114_191538.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-86_eNG3sdFE/UtWJOu9w3KI/AAAAAAAAM6E/oW5KeKWFLeg/w647-h576-no/20140114_191358.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_1vlMiAEgUI/UtWJVbbdVkI/AAAAAAAAM6s/HZKpqnWEsW4/w421-h576-no/20140114_191613.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--k8L9zLl0dI/UtWJR3fAfWI/AAAAAAAAM6U/btdiGJapmyY/w651-h576-no/20140114_191417.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nK8d_34CClY/UtWJR61wjPI/AAAAAAAAM7Q/NtKXb_c_gjg/w590-h576-no/20140114_191427.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--erGWCbcoAM/UtWJSgTNvJI/AAAAAAAAM6c/97bJrohUtVs/w590-h576-no/20140114_191440.jpg)
Wow! amazing work daniele, I'm impressed!
Dan
Impressive indeed!!
compliments! ...very wonderful plant Dan! :)
Quote from: danskibsted on Sunday, 12 January 2014 - 18:41:07
two of my favorites, godzilla royal:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto1_zps34d0e8a0.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto1_zps34d0e8a0.png.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto2_zpsc6645a2a.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto2_zpsc6645a2a.png.html)
Dan
:)
Today, I looked closer at my Aztekium ritteri grafts on Pereskiopsis stock. I did like what I saw - and thought that maybe
someone else would like them as well. :) Thus, have a look at some photos:
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/azrit0172.JPG)
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/azrit0171.JPG)
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/azrit0170.JPG)
Wow, amazing work! You can be proud (:
I find grafting aztekium and strombocactus super difficult because they are so small, so I haven't done it for a while. Maybe it's time to try again.
Dan
Here is an update from my winter-project:
Ariocarpus retusus cv. cauliflower:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto1_zps15a49d11.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto1_zps15a49d11.png.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto2_zpsa1c3147d.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto2_zpsa1c3147d.png.html)
Ariocarpus furfuraceus cv. maruibo:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto5_zps8b884173.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto5_zps8b884173.png.html)
Astrophytum myriostigma cv. fukuryu "sassanami"
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto3_zps93c56deb.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto3_zps93c56deb.png.html)
Astrophytum asterias f. variegata on harrisia jusbertii:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto4_zps856f0c94.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto4_zps856f0c94.png.html)
Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko white:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto2a_zps4fba72bc.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto2a_zps4fba72bc.png.html)
These days I'm building a new setup for my grafts. The bottom is finished, but I still have some work ahead of me before the top floors are done. It should have twice the capacity compared to my old one:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto1_zps14c27ead.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto1_zps14c27ead.jpg.html)
Enjoy!
Dan
Quote from: danskibsted on Tuesday, 28 January 2014 - 16:53:15
I find grafting aztekium and strombocactus super difficult because they are so small, ...
Dan
Me too, actually - but growing the seedlings on their own roots is even more difficult... ;)
Quote from: danskibsted on Tuesday, 28 January 2014 - 20:19:46
Here is an update from my winter-project:
You're showing the highest flight indeed, Dan! I like 'maruibo' and 'sassanami' the most - though ALL the pictures are great!
great job Dan! the fukuryu and the kikko are very nice
Update! The grafts are around 5 months old now:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto1_zps48550042.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto1_zps48550042.jpg.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto2_zps9bf74f87.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto2_zps9bf74f87.jpg.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto3_zps3b701487.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto3_zps3b701487.jpg.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto3_zps1e26d90a.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto3_zps1e26d90a.jpg.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto4_zpsc4a15787.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto4_zpsc4a15787.png.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto5_zpsaad125f7.png) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto5_zpsaad125f7.png.html)
Dan
very good growth rate :) love that single headed maruibo (?)
Thank you!
How are your winter grafts doing?
Dan
they are doing well, here there are some photos (sorry for the bad quality):
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-IyTwKqu-O9E/UxYWil6nZGI/AAAAAAAANLk/vudvTK6S7_o/w682-h577-no/20140304_155816.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-sWsTzB5yPBM/UxYWi_pd41I/AAAAAAAANLs/OWXHQpGjgs4/w682-h577-no/20140304_155856.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rkUV8wrofmw/UxYWj9N5fWI/AAAAAAAANMY/ceiM1wUls_w/w599-h577-no/20140304_155955.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ayBBo4l1VgQ/UxYWmPKWVCI/AAAAAAAANL4/sgDX9qDwxHc/w551-h577-no/20140304_160103.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-V0_6rGk-bdA/UxYWnTFyBMI/AAAAAAAANMA/doauxJUsoh0/w551-h577-no/20140304_160332.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mULDBTXxHUs/UxYWpNHpaZI/AAAAAAAANMI/mzT1pL1sJtQ/w588-h577-no/20140304_160652.jpg)
more recent ones, still small
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nAFcijdU7yI/UxYWqUO7xoI/AAAAAAAANMQ/ibNCFuhi1DU/w723-h577-no/20140304_162509.jpg)
Thanks for the update! Very nice work - I like your kikko's.
Your plants look nice and vigorous.
Dan
So nice! A great work you're doing, Carlo&Daniele!
I've been repotting my collection last weeks. Quite a lot of an interesting work I'd say. During this, I also removed most of my
winter grafts from under lamps to my greenhouse. Here they go - or to be precise, a selection of them (most of them on the
Selenicereus rootstock; if not, it's specifically mentioned)...
Ariocarpus bravoanus:
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/ario_bravoanus0191.JPG)
Ariocarpus retusus 'Cauliflower':
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/ario_cauliflowe0190.JPG)
A choice of young plants from a cross between Astrophytum 'banyaku fukuryu' and A. myriostigma 'kikko variegata/koh-yo':
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/banyaku_0187.JPG)
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/banyaku_0188.JPG)
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/banyaku_0189.JPG)
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/banyaku_FUK0197.JPG)
Astrophytum caput-medusae on the Opuntia humifusa rootstock:
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/caputmed0198.JPG)
Discocactus horstii on the Pereskiopsis rootstock. Ah, I do love this species so much! :D
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/disco_horstii0194.JPG)
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/discohorstii0206.JPG)
All the three seedlings from a single seed packet (A. myriostigma 'smyle'):
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/my_smyle0196.JPG)
Seedlings of Astrophytum myriostigma 'Onzuka tricostatum'.
To my great disappointment, only a few seedlings are with three ribs... :( Most are four-ribbed, some
have five ribs and a few seem to the 'ball' form. Only the pattern looks nice nearly on all the seedlings.
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/onz_trico0195.JPG)
These funny things also grew up from Onztrico seeds:
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/onztrico0201.JPG)
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/onztrico0202.JPG)
Abselutely amazing work Harri! I really like your colourfull myriostigma's.
How old are the digitostigmas?
Dan
Thanks, Dan! Digitostigmas are grafted on the 10th of August 2013 have spent all the time up to now under lamps. I repotted them a few days ago and now, they are in the greenhouse in the natural light conditions.
Some more photos:
Though grafted Aztekium hintonii young plants (here on the Pereskiopsis rootstock) are unnaturally hairy, they look very nice and cute:
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/azhint0209.JPG)
Aztekium ritteri on the Pereskiopsis. A couple of plants have an attractive purplish tint while the others are pure green:
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/azrit0212.JPG)
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/azrit0213.JPG)
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/azrit0214.JPG)
Astrophytum coahuilense 'Kikko':
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/coahkikko0200.JPG)
Finally - a so long waited A. coahuilense 'tricostatum' plant:
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/coahtrico0205.JPG)
Strombocactus corregidorae on Pereskiopsis rootstock:
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/correg0211.JPG)
When dreams come true... S. corregidorae f cristata:
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/correg_crest0210.JPG)
Eriosyce sp on the Pereskiopsis rootstock:
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/eriosyce_sp0204.JPG)
Obregonia denegrii - while at first it seemed that all these seedlings will be variegated, it turned out that actually, one of them is
completely chlorophyll-less and the others are pure green:
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/obreg_variegata0203.JPG)
Astrophytum myriostigma 'Onzuka Kikko' from seeds of C&D. The right front plant is especially nice, I hope that a real beauty
will grow up from it!
(https://www.e-aiand.com/kaktusefoorumisse/onzkikko0199.JPG)
thank you guys!
@robinast: your grafts are just great, love the discos, the crested strombo and the onzuka 3 ribs (not so easy to obtain).
btw did you meet the same growth by grafting on selenicereus both on a very short arm (like obregonia) and on a single stock?
I cannot say which one is the best, you have really beautiful plants. Great work!
Andrea.
Thanks for nice words!
@Carlo&Daniele:
I can not distinguish the grafts on single stocks from the grafts on these short arms, there's no difference I'd say. At least in case of two arms (I've not tried to use more).
onzuka 3-ribs and a nice ario hybrid
Very nice ario!
I got some similar plants from your seeds. I bellieve it was retusus x godzilla.
Dan
Cauliflower and maruibo:
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto2_zps3ba7bcbb.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto2_zps3ba7bcbb.jpg.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto1_zps59551bdb.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto1_zps59551bdb.jpg.html)
(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/geldboks/foto3_zps611e366b.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/geldboks/media/foto3_zps611e366b.jpg.html)
omg the cauliflower is super nice :)
Great arios! What do you usually do with these ario clusters on peresk? I have some and I don't Know what to do, to regraft as a single cluster preserving the multiheaded habitus is not easy. The other choice is to separate the buds and regraft them separately, each one on its stock. What better?
I usually cut them up and graft 1 head on 1 stock. Some times it is a shame because the clusters are so nice, but it is an easy way to grow alot of plants fast.
update, 10 months old coah kikko:
(https://scontent-a-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10632809_287891998067918_6783062711175624672_n.jpg?oh=b456c7416babc040e96677b321bf8447&oe=545FA0DF)
This time of the year Again...
(https://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/danskibsted1/IMG_3311.jpg) (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/danskibsted1/media/IMG_3311.jpg.html)
Pink digitostigma
(https://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/danskibsted1/IMG_3320.jpg) (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/danskibsted1/media/IMG_3320.jpg.html)
Grafting a 1 day old horizonthalonius subikii
(https://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/danskibsted1/IMG_3329.jpg) (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/danskibsted1/media/IMG_3329.jpg.html)
The first successfull batch - 14 days after grafting.
(https://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/danskibsted1/IMG_3300.jpg) (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/danskibsted1/media/IMG_3300.jpg.html)
Trying Cereus Peruvianus - seems to Work fine so far!
(https://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/danskibsted1/IMG_3307.jpg) (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/danskibsted1/media/IMG_3307.jpg.html)
(https://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/danskibsted1/IMG_3308.jpg) (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/danskibsted1/media/IMG_3308.jpg.html)
To be continued...
great work Dan, as usual! Keep it up!
The one day horiz is not so easy to graft I think :)
i always told that cereus peruvianus is not that bad! =) great work Dan!
new grafts!
gymno cultivar
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YaBfqN5ykiI/VITU-ebKYCI/AAAAAAAAR4g/K8kGqsz-woY/w433-h577-no/20141206_123251.jpg)
freshly grafted maruibo on selenicereus
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0WhPu1_R810/VITU5yiJSrI/AAAAAAAAR4Y/Y2El96zSUV0/w552-h577-no/20141207_191810.jpg)
Hello, everyone!
I was interested by Astrophytum cultivars few years ago. I'm pleased to reading your wonderful forum, where I found a lot of useful information.
Here are some of my winter grafting Astrophytum cultivars. They are made December 1-2.
(https://morgoth.ru/images/2014/12/21/46b3d7f81072ad75fb34f799dc772c56.md.jpg) (http://morgoth.ru/image/gA8)
Hello Deniz, welcome on board!
Very nice graftings, congrats!!!
Thank you very much!
one month after grafting...
(https://morgoth.ru/images/2015/01/02/079a56777f05e479bf7cf41c26f77a7f.md.jpg) (http://morgoth.ru/image/Cce)
(https://morgoth.ru/images/2015/01/03/b8dd9f98ffc7219d4f27248e8ef05da2.md.jpg) (http://morgoth.ru/image/Co2)
(https://morgoth.ru/images/2015/01/03/c43222507a790dd08efda2a1265a1ae9.md.jpg) (http://morgoth.ru/image/Cor)
some grow slowly...
(https://morgoth.ru/images/2015/01/03/fe95214bc26f028b80287269c078aa3c.md.jpg) (http://morgoth.ru/image/CoK)
some of them are very very nice and promising...congrats
Thank you
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ybaruSmoQlI/VLp81j398LI/AAAAAAAAR9w/aHIWxEv7PIc/w648-h577-no/IMG_20150117_152302.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ryjDJHljvi4/VLp83CLPFcI/AAAAAAAAR94/kdBYO89pOi0/w648-h577-no/IMG_20150117_152412.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JqTnmj5C8gk/VLp86T8rT-I/AAAAAAAAR-Q/4tT_E2hWrv8/w648-h577-no/IMG_20150117_153116.jpg)
maruibo
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YOHH3x7tnbM/VLp84FJdYvI/AAAAAAAAR-A/TlQ_OQrszqo/w625-h577-no/IMG_20150117_152516.jpg)
some really good looking graft Deniz, it looks like you will have some good results soon!
Thank you, cortona!
Carlo&Daniele, your grafts are very beautiful!
Hello Deniz,
welcome here on board and thank you for this great pictures! Look very good!
colours!!!
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6XpwrL4c6bQ/VOijq0rHBZI/AAAAAAAASCg/snK_FlTINV8/w570-h577-no/20150221_142744.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-slKtzRVioGk/VOijsM7RJJI/AAAAAAAASCs/B9NaW9DlZXA/w570-h577-no/20150221_142755.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bWayIWpJb2Y/VOijsUE18hI/AAAAAAAASCw/5dYtWcWyDek/w544-h577-no/20150221_142819.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rn1BDfY258M/VOij07R60fI/AAAAAAAASDA/ZrSRXl4IEd4/w544-h577-no/20150221_142858.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fLiFvPM0xkA/VOij3NBHrsI/AAAAAAAASDI/C33F4Ad6lbk/w544-h577-no/20150221_142923.jpg)
Thank you, Ariocarpus!
Carlo & Daniele, the last photo amazing, so different colors!
My grafting are growing...
(https://morgoth.ru/images/2015/02/22/9d35905d33529e63b68f269672c0cd5d.md.jpg) (http://morgoth.ru/image/ZUF)
(https://morgoth.ru/images/2015/02/22/e0fd80572f87711e85d47b6f33b4d7d5.md.jpg) (http://morgoth.ru/image/ZUv)
(https://morgoth.ru/images/2015/02/22/c2af4497906a7376a40b09914162df93.md.jpg) (http://morgoth.ru/image/ZUk)
a nice graft from this winter