(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UCIqkK5ZQR4/T8kazAtprgI/AAAAAAAAt0Q/e4fVNSwMFzY/s640/_-----1-Ariocarpus-furfurac.jpg)
1 (plant 1)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6Py6RpU7yho/T8kazvlK54I/AAAAAAAAt0U/bp0ovwPk-HI/s640/_-----2-Ariocarpus-furfurac.jpg)
2 (plant 1)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GO3Ni5DKPWk/T8kscsjJWoI/AAAAAAAAt1w/L96l605a_U0/s640/5-Ariocarpus-furfuraceus-X-.jpg)
3 (plant 1)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BfINNnLjF1A/T8ksd22lKcI/AAAAAAAAt14/qcyYnVZ6PG8/s640/6-Ariocarpus-furfuraceus-X-.jpg)
4 (plant 1)
nice mario ;)
Hi Sandro, thanks. I am waiting for the flower to open, so that I will upload it.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FmEoIVXIP1s/T8kseHupWdI/AAAAAAAAt18/xJkgdp-o078/s640/7-Ariocarpus-furfuraceus-X-.jpg)
6 (plant 2)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-43wDKEecvkI/T8ka0fTRVbI/AAAAAAAAt0c/irazOy-9-lI/s640/_-----3-Ariocarpus-furfurac.jpg)
7 (plant 2)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gyWsTptzpuQ/T8ka0ndqZVI/AAAAAAAAt0g/fSma1zH2Rro/s640/_-----4-Ariocarpus-furfurac.jpg)
8 (plant 2)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3n1aL-BI9yk/T8kse6vqDtI/AAAAAAAAt2E/V7Qexy5-Vpc/s640/9-Ariocarpus-furfuraceus-X-.jpg)
9 (plant 3)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PYYQnowoVZI/T8ksfaPzaqI/AAAAAAAAt2U/ywIKuX2OkI8/s640/10-Ariocarpus-furfuraceus-X.jpg)
10 (plant 3)
hello Mario, nice plants!
do you know the crossings with which you obtained these plants?
Hi C&D, thanks. Yes.
Mario
Beautiful red pectinatus crossing, great job
from which cross you get the second and the third plant? If I can ask...
thanks
Hi maurice, THANKS for your appreciation...
Hi C&D, thanks. They are all from the same seedpod...
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kjYRNWCe6sI/T-iC4Dy1D7I/AAAAAAAAujU/Det1-sdWxEo/s640/11-.jpg)
11 (plant 3)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YlskxusUMos/T-iC4olmiAI/AAAAAAAAujU/yyoJKUoCq4U/s640/12-.jpg)
12 (plant 3)
congrats mario. that offset is reserve hahahahaha ;)
Hi Sandro, THANKS... Obviously, that's for you to ENJOY...I will prepare a nice engine and graft it for you...
I like these all they are great. It's a long term commitment to breed ariocarpus.
Some I've done, Sorry for picture quality it is cold and dark down here this time of year!
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8165/7446991152_b506d1e7d5.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446991152/)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8162/7446990252_33dc507738.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446990252/)
Trying to propagate a nice coloured cv.latus...wonder if it will work?
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8150/7446984178_6836b83d3b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446984178/)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/7446982414_443552a8f7.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446982414/)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8023/7446980888_3fccb46fee.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446980888/)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7108/7446979914_da804bf4f0.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446979914/)
One year old Confusus X Kotschoubeyanus v. elephantidens seedlings. More than half of these were variegate!
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8164/7446977948_c797a8020c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446977948/)
Hi Simon, THANKS for your appreciation.
Hi Simon, your 1st. photo is beautiful...and the last photo, they look promising...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Auv6uiHpUTg/T-s1cBw_CtI/AAAAAAAAuv8/1LrUaz3eKSs/s640/13.jpg)
13 (plant 4)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pgLLCExe_ZE/T-s1cZFyjxI/AAAAAAAAuv8/hiqQRn6qtM8/s640/14.jpg)
14 (plant 4)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5GbnmUniXIQ/T-s1cUJ5NeI/AAAAAAAAuv8/20hNSYDIxzU/s640/15.jpg)
15 (plant 5)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--5mxmJpwUas/T-s1eVo2HsI/AAAAAAAAuv8/3t6doDHrGRM/s640/16.jpg)
16 (plant 5)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--FrvchRVqjI/T-s1ev3kBGI/AAAAAAAAuv8/Ew2q0QkaTik/s640/17.jpg)
17 (plant 5)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-IxZEdONwYh4/T-s1etTiqRI/AAAAAAAAuv8/_vPRfg4tx_k/s640/18.jpg)
18 (plant 5)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CqOJvxwTBX8/T-s1hH-F99I/AAAAAAAAuv8/pCnEsnbd174/s640/19.jpg)
19 (plant 6)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wl7MF7jNrKY/T-s1gLIEQQI/AAAAAAAAuv8/AOSxjRr29sM/s640/20.jpg)
20 (plant 6)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_7nMhqqhBFo/T-s1gpxrVAI/AAAAAAAAuv8/wuJfg-XwGS0/s640/21-.jpg)
21 (plant 7)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hZ0MYb48X1w/T-s1ilgvTpI/AAAAAAAAuv8/KEU68moCyRs/s640/22.jpg)
22 (plant 7)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MCzDFpL8S4s/T-s1hq9X6pI/AAAAAAAAuv8/zOPVPvzHHr0/s640/23.jpg)
23 (plant 08)
hello guys! these plants are very good looking, compliments!
But it will be better if the name of the crossing is specified...in order to understand what they took from the mother and what from the father.
Personally I'd identify them as hybrids, not yet as cultivars, cos cultivars mantain the characters for several generations.
So the topic is a bit off-topic, cos most of them are variegated plants.
It will be nice to divide the topic among retusus variegations...fissuratus variegations and so on...
Once I heard that the way to obtain variegation in ariocarpus is to cross pink flower group (fissuratus etc) white white flower group (retusus etc), is it true according to your experience?
thanks
Hi C&D, THANKS for your appreciation. I changed the title, maybe it is more realistic now. It is a long term process to achieve such results, maybe you should try it, to see what I mean...Have a gooooo man, as we did...
All plants marked (clone 4) are all from the same seed pod. N.B. I did not create those plants by mixing the colours of the flowers. They just decided to be like that through nature.
Great Mario! Are those plants F1 hybrid or did you obtain them from following crosssing between F1 plants (F2, F3 etc)?
Hi C&D, thanks. Those are F1. I could have continued, but as I said, it's a long process, and space is limited...
yes but they are worth to keep some space :)
some nice hybrids, we did not record the label:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oYqY6nIrujQ/T-3i8lEy52I/AAAAAAAAGcI/pW3N3qQQwWc/s539/29062012990.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RYkvRKC-MLk/T-3i43UksvI/AAAAAAAAGb4/P2n1ytpskzo/s509/29062012987.jpg)
Hi C&D, Lovely...
Hello,
amazing plants !!!
Gerd
Hi gerd, thanks.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-T6SnLdyeHN4/T-8KBcUHlHI/AAAAAAAAu9o/zAgmHMcQV5s/s640/24-%2528clone5%2529.jpg)
24 (plant 9)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_ZnqIOaxsDg/T-8KBfuZOtI/AAAAAAAAu9o/ZD84maOrBvM/s640/25-%2528clone5%2529-.jpg)
25 (plant 9)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KGyGiOdGvM0/T-8KBczvjhI/AAAAAAAAu9o/gJ4MQUW_UGM/s640/26-%2528clone5%2529-.jpg)
26 (plant 9)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G_us65wopE8/T-8KCILCY1I/AAAAAAAAu9o/kEVKzq7BjzY/s640/27-%2528clone5%2529-.jpg)
27 (plant 9)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HM787avQEis/T-8KCasxDGI/AAAAAAAAu9o/1zML_aAe9TE/s640/28-%2528clone5%2529-.jpg)
28 (plant 9)
@c&d... the first kotsch. hybrid is super interesting! :D
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BoT2ius1QtQ/T_AqCEEXAPI/AAAAAAAAu_Q/nGG2b835rms/s640/29-%2528clone-6%2529--.jpg)
29 (plant 10)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xIjbkyeHcvA/T_AqCJ2yTnI/AAAAAAAAu_Q/cn_4kp8fq94/s640/30-%2528clone-6%2529---.jpg)
30 (plant 10)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AHvKgX2T2MU/T_AqCKuqjqI/AAAAAAAAu_Q/of34Vf6eAZQ/s640/31-%2528clone-6%2529---.jpg)
31 (plant 10)
retusus var
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZZB9TFNr138/T_IJdl9ARHI/AAAAAAAAGeQ/Rx-aTKKb6D4/s512/02072012997.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MYCYfsHViwU/T_Qze8o-zNI/AAAAAAAAvEc/Dp0XqyumyP4/s640/32-%2528clone-7%2529.jpg)
32 (plant 11)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ws7NgTpDVd8/T_QzfDYjeVI/AAAAAAAAvEc/msCsdlEH1eo/s640/33-%2528clone-7%2529-.jpg)
33 (plant 11)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HCNolWS1Yhc/T_Qzfarhf8I/AAAAAAAAvEc/kw83rYfOqrM/s640/34-%2528clone-7%2529--.jpg)
34 (plant 11)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mJZol2PA6As/T_QzgDHZq8I/AAAAAAAAvEc/3J7KTMWNTRo/s640/35-%2528clone-7%2529--.jpg)
35 (plant 11)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-si8OfVXR2qw/T_QzhSSkrzI/AAAAAAAAvEc/w5j6nCDomxw/s640/36-%2528clone-7%2529--.jpg)
36 (plant 11)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-juZazElIfos/T_QzhAPR9uI/AAAAAAAAvEc/-qyCAT4Td3o/s640/37-%2528clone-7%2529---.jpg)
37 (plant 11)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3nMF4sDdi50/T_SOhAeLUQI/AAAAAAAAGpc/JOCX8S3wLI4/s800/009%2520%25282%2529.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xeOKb9QbBHw/T_SOgSqh_WI/AAAAAAAAGpc/EamsLZCaAFA/s800/010%2520%25282%2529.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-w8zuSUG8Pz0/T_SOs6nJCYI/AAAAAAAAGpc/Qo1urV0PGnU/s800/012%2520%25282%2529.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Lu2zGJpTxLo/T_SO2xHZQVI/AAAAAAAAGpc/2V7DPv7cUe0/s800/013%2520%25283%2529.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HXi3p4izSVQ/T_SO1SLatvI/AAAAAAAAGpc/j-L9T7HO_oo/s800/014%2520%25283%2529.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-flGj4SPZTMc/T_SPEpAj_PI/AAAAAAAAGpc/mCG7Q-QmLM8/s800/016%2520%25282%2529.JPG)
Hi Sandro, Beautiful plants...
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-z7nX0RTwfT0/UAxgTsUPaII/AAAAAAAAvgs/7RYqsPkcDt8/s640/38-%2528clone-3%2529-colour-change.jpg)
(plant 3) colour change
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YjtUqPL3csY/UAxgUWwKPBI/AAAAAAAAvgs/P2j4-dL1bYg/s640/39-%2528clone-3%2529-colour-change.jpg)
(plant 3) colour change
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y43r-smYumU/UAxgT6QLDNI/AAAAAAAAvgs/xBygJa5Fido/s640/40-%2528clone-3%2529-colour-change-.jpg)
(plant 3) colour change
Beautiful plant, is a hybrid?
Hi Karlet, thanks. I called the Topic "Ariocarpus Creations" cos I did the pollination of all these plants and there are more to come next year, my seeds are ready, I had no time to sow them. I call it a hybrid, when plants are left outside the green house or when you leave the green house open and are pollinated by bees etc. and you don't know who is the father. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe, it's a matter of opinion. That's my opinion...
Thanks for the explanation Mario, and thanks to mother nature also ;)
another interesting hybrid, do you like it?
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5_49SbmGIBA/UPLavq9kj7I/AAAAAAAAIX0/kr8tIVULtRU/s543/060120131638.jpg)
Yes, I really like it!
Very beautiful and interesting!
It could be something like kotschoubeyanus x retusus cauliflower, am I wrong?
Andrea.
Hi C&D, very nice plant,
I think is a fissuratus x retusus Cauliflower, maybe fissuratus cv Godzilla x retusus Cauliflower.
Lucian.
hello and than you both!
yes it could be fiss or kot crossed with cauliflower...
Hi,
@ marazz53 - very nice own roots kotschoubeyanus hybrids. Are all three of them clone? If yes how do you manage to make them to have roots like that?
Thank you,
Lucian.
Hi Lucian, thanks. Those 3 plants, I grew them individually from my seeds. That is, if I want to have seeds, I will pollinate them and have seeds. They are not from one plant, they are 3 different plants.
Ok, now I understand what you mean. BUT, by definition a clone is a plant genetically identical whit the plant it comes from. All those three kotskhoubeyanus are from seeds and they are genetically unique in this world which means that they are not clones. If they are different than they can not be clones. If you put these two words together you create confusion because they are antonyms.
If you will cut leafs from them and graft them, then the plants that you will obtain from them will be clones. When I'm looking at a plant labeled CLONE I start asking myself how it become a plant, analyse the root and all other parts of it.
Thank you. Very nice plants.
Lucian.
Hi Lucian, thanks. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I wanted to say plants, cos I grew them individually from my seeds.
hi lucian, you are right about the means of the term clone but in the last period lots of people call an individual plant(so a plant that is unique) a clone( i think in the way of multiply it)
Quote from: marazz53 on Monday, 25 June 2012 - 17:31:10
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kjYRNWCe6sI/T-iC4Dy1D7I/AAAAAAAAujU/Det1-sdWxEo/s640/11-.jpg)
11 (plant 3)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YlskxusUMos/T-iC4olmiAI/AAAAAAAAujU/yyoJKUoCq4U/s640/12-.jpg)
12 (plant 3)
why is it so beatifull?
three nice hybrids with buds right now:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I_uXrvGw4JQ/UmPvwcr9W7I/AAAAAAAAMjs/DnHDht2n-xI/w583-h577-no/WP_20131020_001.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-apb6ITYa0qg/UmPvvxmpvQI/AAAAAAAAMjo/SVUc5pQrNy8/w557-h577-no/WP_20131020_003.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qzjObbgziHA/UmPv1H6-K3I/AAAAAAAAMkE/hGLleaO3HsM/w528-h577-no/WP_20131020_005.jpg)
Wrong time for flowers in the Southern Hemisphere.
First plant trigonis x scapharostrus
Second is retusus cv. Magnifucus x scapharostrus, this is one of my most favourite Ario plants it has two nice pups I intend to cut off and graft soon.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3720/10548009093_b55ed27da2_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/10548009093/)
[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/10548007133/](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3718/10548007133_3db9bf780e_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/10548009093/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/10548007133/)