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Cactus Cultivars => Ariocarpus Cultivars => Hybrids => Topic started by: marazz53 on Friday, 01 June 2012 - 22:09:26

Title: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Friday, 01 June 2012 - 22:09:26
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UCIqkK5ZQR4/T8kazAtprgI/AAAAAAAAt0Q/e4fVNSwMFzY/s640/_-----1-Ariocarpus-furfurac.jpg)
1 (plant 1)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6Py6RpU7yho/T8kazvlK54I/AAAAAAAAt0U/bp0ovwPk-HI/s640/_-----2-Ariocarpus-furfurac.jpg)
2 (plant 1)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GO3Ni5DKPWk/T8kscsjJWoI/AAAAAAAAt1w/L96l605a_U0/s640/5-Ariocarpus-furfuraceus-X-.jpg)
3 (plant 1)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BfINNnLjF1A/T8ksd22lKcI/AAAAAAAAt14/qcyYnVZ6PG8/s640/6-Ariocarpus-furfuraceus-X-.jpg)
4 (plant 1)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Cultivars" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: xwa27 on Monday, 04 June 2012 - 21:35:09
nice mario ;)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Thursday, 07 June 2012 - 11:32:05
Hi Sandro, thanks. I am waiting for the flower to open, so that I will upload it.
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Friday, 22 June 2012 - 12:12:05
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FmEoIVXIP1s/T8kseHupWdI/AAAAAAAAt18/xJkgdp-o078/s640/7-Ariocarpus-furfuraceus-X-.jpg)
6 (plant 2)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-43wDKEecvkI/T8ka0fTRVbI/AAAAAAAAt0c/irazOy-9-lI/s640/_-----3-Ariocarpus-furfurac.jpg)
7 (plant 2)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gyWsTptzpuQ/T8ka0ndqZVI/AAAAAAAAt0g/fSma1zH2Rro/s640/_-----4-Ariocarpus-furfurac.jpg)
8 (plant 2)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Saturday, 23 June 2012 - 15:25:18
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3n1aL-BI9yk/T8kse6vqDtI/AAAAAAAAt2E/V7Qexy5-Vpc/s640/9-Ariocarpus-furfuraceus-X-.jpg)
9 (plant 3)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PYYQnowoVZI/T8ksfaPzaqI/AAAAAAAAt2U/ywIKuX2OkI8/s640/10-Ariocarpus-furfuraceus-X.jpg)
10 (plant 3)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Cultivars" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Saturday, 23 June 2012 - 15:28:36
hello Mario, nice plants!
do you know the crossings with which you obtained these plants?
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Saturday, 23 June 2012 - 19:44:21
Hi C&D, thanks. Yes.
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Cultivars" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: maurice.schoemans on Saturday, 23 June 2012 - 21:19:04
Mario
Beautiful red pectinatus crossing, great job
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Cultivars" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Sunday, 24 June 2012 - 03:04:23
from which cross you get the second and the third plant? If I can ask...

thanks
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Sunday, 24 June 2012 - 18:25:42
Hi maurice, THANKS for your appreciation...

Hi C&D, thanks. They are all from the same seedpod...
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Monday, 25 June 2012 - 17:31:10
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kjYRNWCe6sI/T-iC4Dy1D7I/AAAAAAAAujU/Det1-sdWxEo/s640/11-.jpg)
11 (plant 3)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YlskxusUMos/T-iC4olmiAI/AAAAAAAAujU/yyoJKUoCq4U/s640/12-.jpg)
12 (plant 3)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Cultivars" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: xwa27 on Monday, 25 June 2012 - 17:55:40
congrats mario. that offset is reserve hahahahaha ;)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Monday, 25 June 2012 - 20:45:04
Hi Sandro, THANKS... Obviously, that's for you to ENJOY...I will prepare a nice engine and graft it for you...
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Cultivars" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Simon on Tuesday, 26 June 2012 - 13:26:15
I like these all they are great. It's a long term commitment to breed ariocarpus.
Some I've done, Sorry for picture quality it is cold and dark down here this time of year!
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8165/7446991152_b506d1e7d5.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446991152/)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8162/7446990252_33dc507738.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446990252/)
Trying to propagate a nice coloured cv.latus...wonder if it will work?
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8150/7446984178_6836b83d3b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446984178/)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/7446982414_443552a8f7.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446982414/)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8023/7446980888_3fccb46fee.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446980888/)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7108/7446979914_da804bf4f0.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446979914/)
One year old Confusus X Kotschoubeyanus v. elephantidens seedlings. More than half of these were variegate!
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8164/7446977948_c797a8020c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7446977948/)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Tuesday, 26 June 2012 - 19:21:40
Hi Simon, THANKS for your appreciation.


Hi Simon, your 1st. photo is beautiful...and the last photo, they look promising...
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Wednesday, 27 June 2012 - 18:46:33
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Auv6uiHpUTg/T-s1cBw_CtI/AAAAAAAAuv8/1LrUaz3eKSs/s640/13.jpg)
13 (plant 4)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pgLLCExe_ZE/T-s1cZFyjxI/AAAAAAAAuv8/hiqQRn6qtM8/s640/14.jpg)
14 (plant 4)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5GbnmUniXIQ/T-s1cUJ5NeI/AAAAAAAAuv8/20hNSYDIxzU/s640/15.jpg)
15 (plant 5)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--5mxmJpwUas/T-s1eVo2HsI/AAAAAAAAuv8/3t6doDHrGRM/s640/16.jpg)
16 (plant 5)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--FrvchRVqjI/T-s1ev3kBGI/AAAAAAAAuv8/Ew2q0QkaTik/s640/17.jpg)
17 (plant 5)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-IxZEdONwYh4/T-s1etTiqRI/AAAAAAAAuv8/_vPRfg4tx_k/s640/18.jpg)
18 (plant 5)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CqOJvxwTBX8/T-s1hH-F99I/AAAAAAAAuv8/pCnEsnbd174/s640/19.jpg)
19 (plant 6)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wl7MF7jNrKY/T-s1gLIEQQI/AAAAAAAAuv8/AOSxjRr29sM/s640/20.jpg)
20 (plant 6)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_7nMhqqhBFo/T-s1gpxrVAI/AAAAAAAAuv8/wuJfg-XwGS0/s640/21-.jpg)
21 (plant 7)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hZ0MYb48X1w/T-s1ilgvTpI/AAAAAAAAuv8/KEU68moCyRs/s640/22.jpg)
22 (plant 7)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MCzDFpL8S4s/T-s1hq9X6pI/AAAAAAAAuv8/zOPVPvzHHr0/s640/23.jpg)
23 (plant 08)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Cultivars" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Wednesday, 27 June 2012 - 19:45:12
hello guys! these plants are very good looking, compliments!
But it will be better if the name of the crossing is specified...in order to understand what they took from the mother and what from the father.
Personally I'd identify them as hybrids, not yet as cultivars, cos cultivars mantain the characters for several generations.
So the topic is a bit off-topic, cos most of them are variegated plants.
It will be nice to divide the topic among retusus variegations...fissuratus variegations and so on...
Once I heard that the way to obtain variegation in ariocarpus is to cross pink flower group (fissuratus etc) white white flower group (retusus etc), is it true according to your experience?

thanks
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Thursday, 28 June 2012 - 23:35:10
Hi C&D, THANKS for your appreciation. I changed the title, maybe it is more realistic now. It is a long term process to achieve such results, maybe you should try it, to see what I mean...Have a gooooo man, as we did...

All plants marked (clone 4) are all from the same seed pod. N.B. I did not create those plants by mixing the colours of the flowers. They just decided to be like that through nature.
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Friday, 29 June 2012 - 12:18:43
Great Mario! Are those plants F1 hybrid or did you obtain them from following crosssing between F1 plants (F2, F3 etc)?
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Friday, 29 June 2012 - 13:35:57
Hi C&D, thanks. Those are F1. I could have continued, but as I said, it's a long process, and space is limited...
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Friday, 29 June 2012 - 19:25:54
yes but they are worth to keep some space :)
some nice hybrids, we did not record the label:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oYqY6nIrujQ/T-3i8lEy52I/AAAAAAAAGcI/pW3N3qQQwWc/s539/29062012990.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RYkvRKC-MLk/T-3i43UksvI/AAAAAAAAGb4/P2n1ytpskzo/s509/29062012987.jpg)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Friday, 29 June 2012 - 19:31:44
Hi C&D, Lovely...
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: gerd on Friday, 29 June 2012 - 21:58:24
Hello,
amazing plants !!!
Gerd
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Saturday, 30 June 2012 - 16:21:35
Hi gerd, thanks.
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Saturday, 30 June 2012 - 16:28:06
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-T6SnLdyeHN4/T-8KBcUHlHI/AAAAAAAAu9o/zAgmHMcQV5s/s640/24-%2528clone5%2529.jpg)
24 (plant 9)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_ZnqIOaxsDg/T-8KBfuZOtI/AAAAAAAAu9o/ZD84maOrBvM/s640/25-%2528clone5%2529-.jpg)
25 (plant 9)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KGyGiOdGvM0/T-8KBczvjhI/AAAAAAAAu9o/gJ4MQUW_UGM/s640/26-%2528clone5%2529-.jpg)
26 (plant 9)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G_us65wopE8/T-8KCILCY1I/AAAAAAAAu9o/kEVKzq7BjzY/s640/27-%2528clone5%2529-.jpg)
27 (plant 9)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HM787avQEis/T-8KCasxDGI/AAAAAAAAu9o/1zML_aAe9TE/s640/28-%2528clone5%2529-.jpg)
28 (plant 9)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: fanecchissimo on Saturday, 30 June 2012 - 21:06:33
@c&d... the first kotsch. hybrid is super interesting!  :D
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Sunday, 01 July 2012 - 12:51:23
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BoT2ius1QtQ/T_AqCEEXAPI/AAAAAAAAu_Q/nGG2b835rms/s640/29-%2528clone-6%2529--.jpg)
29 (plant 10)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xIjbkyeHcvA/T_AqCJ2yTnI/AAAAAAAAu_Q/cn_4kp8fq94/s640/30-%2528clone-6%2529---.jpg)
30 (plant 10)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AHvKgX2T2MU/T_AqCKuqjqI/AAAAAAAAu_Q/of34Vf6eAZQ/s640/31-%2528clone-6%2529---.jpg)
31 (plant 10)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Monday, 02 July 2012 - 22:53:15
retusus var

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZZB9TFNr138/T_IJdl9ARHI/AAAAAAAAGeQ/Rx-aTKKb6D4/s512/02072012997.jpg)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Wednesday, 04 July 2012 - 14:24:42
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MYCYfsHViwU/T_Qze8o-zNI/AAAAAAAAvEc/Dp0XqyumyP4/s640/32-%2528clone-7%2529.jpg)
32 (plant 11)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ws7NgTpDVd8/T_QzfDYjeVI/AAAAAAAAvEc/msCsdlEH1eo/s640/33-%2528clone-7%2529-.jpg)
33 (plant 11)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HCNolWS1Yhc/T_Qzfarhf8I/AAAAAAAAvEc/kw83rYfOqrM/s640/34-%2528clone-7%2529--.jpg)
34 (plant 11)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mJZol2PA6As/T_QzgDHZq8I/AAAAAAAAvEc/3J7KTMWNTRo/s640/35-%2528clone-7%2529--.jpg)
35 (plant 11)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-si8OfVXR2qw/T_QzhSSkrzI/AAAAAAAAvEc/w5j6nCDomxw/s640/36-%2528clone-7%2529--.jpg)
36 (plant 11)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-juZazElIfos/T_QzhAPR9uI/AAAAAAAAvEc/-qyCAT4Td3o/s640/37-%2528clone-7%2529---.jpg)
37 (plant 11)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: xwa27 on Wednesday, 04 July 2012 - 21:39:40
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3nMF4sDdi50/T_SOhAeLUQI/AAAAAAAAGpc/JOCX8S3wLI4/s800/009%2520%25282%2529.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xeOKb9QbBHw/T_SOgSqh_WI/AAAAAAAAGpc/EamsLZCaAFA/s800/010%2520%25282%2529.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-w8zuSUG8Pz0/T_SOs6nJCYI/AAAAAAAAGpc/Qo1urV0PGnU/s800/012%2520%25282%2529.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Lu2zGJpTxLo/T_SO2xHZQVI/AAAAAAAAGpc/2V7DPv7cUe0/s800/013%2520%25283%2529.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HXi3p4izSVQ/T_SO1SLatvI/AAAAAAAAGpc/j-L9T7HO_oo/s800/014%2520%25283%2529.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-flGj4SPZTMc/T_SPEpAj_PI/AAAAAAAAGpc/mCG7Q-QmLM8/s800/016%2520%25282%2529.JPG)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Thursday, 05 July 2012 - 11:45:35
Hi Sandro, Beautiful plants...
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Wednesday, 05 September 2012 - 15:37:13
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-z7nX0RTwfT0/UAxgTsUPaII/AAAAAAAAvgs/7RYqsPkcDt8/s640/38-%2528clone-3%2529-colour-change.jpg)
(plant 3) colour change
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YjtUqPL3csY/UAxgUWwKPBI/AAAAAAAAvgs/P2j4-dL1bYg/s640/39-%2528clone-3%2529-colour-change.jpg)
(plant 3) colour change
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y43r-smYumU/UAxgT6QLDNI/AAAAAAAAvgs/xBygJa5Fido/s640/40-%2528clone-3%2529-colour-change-.jpg)
(plant 3) colour change

Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Karlet on Wednesday, 05 September 2012 - 18:52:46
Beautiful plant, is a hybrid?
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Thursday, 06 September 2012 - 15:51:13
Hi Karlet, thanks. I called the Topic "Ariocarpus  Creations" cos I did the pollination of all these plants and there are more to come next year, my seeds are ready, I had no time to sow them. I call it a hybrid, when plants are left outside the green house or when you leave the green house open and are pollinated by bees etc. and you don't know who is the father. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe, it's a matter of opinion. That's my opinion...
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Karlet on Thursday, 06 September 2012 - 18:32:01
Thanks for the explanation Mario, and thanks to mother nature also ;)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Sunday, 13 January 2013 - 17:04:59
another interesting hybrid, do you like it?

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5_49SbmGIBA/UPLavq9kj7I/AAAAAAAAIX0/kr8tIVULtRU/s543/060120131638.jpg)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: andrea.a on Sunday, 13 January 2013 - 17:15:37
Yes, I really like it!
Very beautiful and interesting!

It could be something like kotschoubeyanus x retusus cauliflower, am I wrong?
Andrea.
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Lucian on Monday, 14 January 2013 - 09:58:33
Hi C&D, very nice plant,

I think is a fissuratus x retusus Cauliflower, maybe fissuratus cv Godzilla x retusus Cauliflower.

Lucian.
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Thursday, 17 January 2013 - 16:35:12
hello and than you both!
yes it could be fiss or kot crossed with cauliflower...
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Lucian on Wednesday, 23 January 2013 - 10:50:35
Hi,

@ marazz53 - very nice own roots kotschoubeyanus hybrids. Are all three of them clone? If yes how do you manage to make them to have roots like that?

Thank you,
Lucian.
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Wednesday, 23 January 2013 - 18:22:10
Hi Lucian, thanks. Those 3 plants, I grew them individually from my seeds. That is, if I want to have seeds, I will pollinate them and have seeds. They are not from one plant, they are 3 different plants.
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Lucian on Wednesday, 23 January 2013 - 19:46:43
Ok, now I understand what you mean. BUT, by definition a clone is a plant genetically identical whit the plant it comes from. All those three kotskhoubeyanus are from seeds and they are genetically unique in this world which means that they are not clones. If they are different than they can not be clones. If you put these two words together you create confusion because they are antonyms.

If you will cut leafs from them and graft them, then the plants that you will obtain from them will be clones. When I'm looking at a plant labeled CLONE I start asking myself how it become a plant, analyse the root and all other parts of it.

Thank you. Very nice plants.

Lucian.
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: marazz53 on Thursday, 24 January 2013 - 17:19:30
Hi Lucian, thanks. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I wanted to say plants, cos I grew them individually from my seeds.
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: cortona on Saturday, 20 April 2013 - 11:08:10
hi lucian, you are right about the means of the term clone but in the last period lots of people call an individual plant(so a plant that is unique) a clone( i think in the way of multiply it)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: xiaohuage on Thursday, 20 June 2013 - 02:24:18
Quote from: marazz53 on Monday, 25 June 2012 - 17:31:10
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kjYRNWCe6sI/T-iC4Dy1D7I/AAAAAAAAujU/Det1-sdWxEo/s640/11-.jpg)
11 (plant 3)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YlskxusUMos/T-iC4olmiAI/AAAAAAAAujU/yyoJKUoCq4U/s640/12-.jpg)
12 (plant 3)
why is it so beatifull?
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Monday, 21 October 2013 - 16:54:12
three nice hybrids with buds right now:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I_uXrvGw4JQ/UmPvwcr9W7I/AAAAAAAAMjs/DnHDht2n-xI/w583-h577-no/WP_20131020_001.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-apb6ITYa0qg/UmPvvxmpvQI/AAAAAAAAMjo/SVUc5pQrNy8/w557-h577-no/WP_20131020_003.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qzjObbgziHA/UmPv1H6-K3I/AAAAAAAAMkE/hGLleaO3HsM/w528-h577-no/WP_20131020_005.jpg)
Title: Re: "Ariocarpus Creations" grown from seeds by "Forum Members".
Post by: Simon on Tuesday, 29 October 2013 - 05:03:47
Wrong time for flowers in the Southern Hemisphere.
First plant trigonis x scapharostrus
Second is retusus cv. Magnifucus x scapharostrus, this is one of my most favourite Ario plants it has two nice pups I intend to cut off and graft soon.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3720/10548009093_b55ed27da2_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/10548009093/)

[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/10548007133/](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3718/10548007133_3db9bf780e_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/10548009093/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/10548007133/)