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Cactus Cultivars => Specialist cultivation techniques => Topic started by: AstrophytumCultivars.com on Thursday, 05 April 2012 - 12:06:15

Title: Re-rooting of grafted plants
Post by: AstrophytumCultivars.com on Thursday, 05 April 2012 - 12:06:15
Hello all,

Does anybody have some good experience with re-rooting/degrafting of grafted Astros - I mean not only cv. but also normal plants ?

Thank you very much for hints

:)
Title: Re: Re-rooting of grafted plants
Post by: fanecchissimo on Thursday, 05 April 2012 - 20:36:10
just cut the scion at half and let dry. put on soil when dried and wait. you win. better with bigger plants
Title: Re: Re-rooting of grafted plants
Post by: gattopardo on Friday, 06 April 2012 - 21:17:24
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superkabuto.. cut.. allowed to dry 20 days.. and then supported on soil for cactus..!!
Title: Re: Re-rooting of grafted plants
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Friday, 06 April 2012 - 21:28:26
hello! do you put anything on the cut surface to make it dry well?

thanks
Title: Re: Re-rooting of grafted plants
Post by: gattopardo on Friday, 06 April 2012 - 22:00:02
no... I make only to dry well for 20 days..!!
Title: Re: Re-rooting of grafted plants
Post by: marazz53 on Saturday, 07 April 2012 - 07:25:26
Hi Flavio, SUPER JOB, congrats...
Title: Re: Re-rooting of grafted plants
Post by: Simon on Saturday, 07 April 2012 - 22:54:34
Very good roots on that asterias Flavio.
I usually dry plants a couple of months and find Asterias cv,s a little slower to root than Myriostigma. I used to put hormone powder but now I thinhk it is not necessary.
Ariocarpus I cut off mid summer, they have a wide cut surface so I often dry them over autumn and winter then plant in spring. Ariocarpus do best if more than 5cm diameter when degrafted. After a year or two on own roots it is hard to tell they have been on a graft.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7219/7054651573_d8c00318ac.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/7054651573/)
I thought this technique is very interesting, there is about 3cm of Harissia which is totally buried. Seems to work well!
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5341/6908561580_78711f6b20.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36369542@N04/6908561580/)


Title: Re: Re-rooting of grafted plants
Post by: gattopardo on Sunday, 08 April 2012 - 07:47:14
good job Simon... the job with Harrisia is very used in Japan and has a good aesthetical vision.. personally I prefer to make to free the plants on own roots once reached the dimension of an orange tree..!!
Title: Re: Re-rooting of grafted plants
Post by: fanecchissimo on Tuesday, 10 April 2012 - 17:08:33
@simon... surely your roots are of the remaining stock. To me it is not a problem... i usually degraft the same way.. but you didn't degraft... (only a personal opinion)
Title: Re: Re-rooting of grafted plants
Post by: AstrophytumCultivars.com on Wednesday, 11 April 2012 - 09:32:52
Yes, imho: this kind a usage of small Eriocereus stock is only some "optical illusion", but no real degrafting.  ???
Title: Re: Re-rooting of grafted plants
Post by: Simon on Wednesday, 11 April 2012 - 11:17:48
The top photo is from my nursery and shows the roots on degrafted Astros that had been on Pereskiopsis. I almost always totally remove the stock when taking plants off Pereskiopsis
The second photo was from a nursery in Thailand. I also agree that it is not degrafting. But when you see the plant in the pot you don't know. What I found really interesting was that the Fukuryu on that 3cm piece of stock had grown to nearly 50cm and seemed to still be going strong....
From a purist perspective the short  buried stock is still a grafted plant but to me it is a lot nicer looking. It would be nearly impossible to achieve such incredible growth in a  single lifetime without "cheating" in that way so this technique might prove useful with Astros on Harrissia.
Title: Re: Re-rooting of grafted plants
Post by: fanecchissimo on Wednesday, 11 April 2012 - 14:36:42
@Simon: i do agree, it is interesting if you want rapid results. it is not so great to select plants, in my opinion.
to me it is effective the same way without letting the stock piece. You can cut all the visible stock and still get stock roots.  if you cut as in your first photo you obtain the better result, in my opinion.