hello, we bought this plant as maruibo, but right now is showing cauliflower character on the bottom part of the tubercles.
what do you think is the right name for it?
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UL9eTd47p5c/Tp7tj78Mt3I/AAAAAAAAFXI/R95paDN1Y2A/s512/19102011270.jpg)
thanks
G'morning Carlo and Daniele
I can understand the meaning of "maruibo".
It is simply said about the shape of tubercles which are round.
There is no name of species but I assume it is a furfuraceus, as same as cauliflower. (from appearance on your photo)
Honestly I have never heard the description of "maruibo".
Japanese cactus nurseries who I know use the word "daruma ibo".
Daruma is an Indean Buddhism monk. He maditated in a cave so long and lost his hands and legs. As the result his body shape became "round".
I think "maruibo" is same as"daruma ibo".
Frank,
Thanks for the info and the nice story!
Yes, we think too it's furfuraceus.
c & d
the plant in flower:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ctEASTqNtYg/Tr_v0LTV-cI/AAAAAAAAFbQ/g-COu7B2Heo/s512/12112011334.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-opzrNaxwPwM/TsKcjDqWeKI/AAAAAAAAFps/knu3s0lWLbs/s720/029.JPG)
maruibo x trefinger
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PBOgXy4rhJs/TsKcRl69j5I/AAAAAAAAFps/81XDD30vrfQ/s720/024.JPG)
maruibo
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vo4ljS5s-2c/TqmQqyp36EI/AAAAAAAAFdg/jpBTh81CPFw/s720/019.JPG)
maruibo x cauliflower
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2zGiD5K9i78/TqmQijvcMMI/AAAAAAAAFdg/PnTKOaju23c/s720/018.JPG)
maruibo twin head
great plants Sandro! compliments!
this is another from our collection:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gP_Mdw79eRw/ThXAG0RHLzI/AAAAAAAAEXg/kZlRdCtPcmk/s512/CIMG3788.JPG)
Carlo & Daniele
Your plant is very similar to "Golf Ball" which Yokohama-jj has.
http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~hama-jj/bbs30/bbsdata/3012-0.jpg (http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~hama-jj/bbs30/bbsdata/3012-0.jpg)
Frank,
the plant is quite similar to the one of the website, even if that one is almost perfect, and the skin seems also different.
great picture on that website!
maruibo cauliflower
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--Tv6kQ-cAwI/T2TO92OdljI/AAAAAAAAFy4/Sup49LqRiLw/s512/17032012656.jpg)
maruibo x cauliflower grafted on peresk...looks promising, what do you think?
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bPB12qMY5zs/T-3iylS64YI/AAAAAAAAGbY/3VjS2IMPwts/s523/29062012983.jpg)
It looks very promissing!
Keep up the good work (:
Dan
very nice dan complimenti ;)
thank you both!
this maruibo cauliflower has some scars but it's growing well this year!
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6X4kT3hZdlY/UAgx2catwDI/AAAAAAAAGiw/nLL6KjIGxh8/s509/190720121052.jpg)
update of the nice seedlings on peresk (quite slow growing)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nmaLk35TTgY/UEU2S4Cq5tI/AAAAAAAAGxI/s-2N9nFGcfg/s555/030920121214.jpg)
Very impressive! Keep us updated (:
Dan
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-17LwAXLZOjQ/UKAwi4G0PrI/AAAAAAAAHxA/SGbVo74VxvM/s511/081120121460.jpg)
Very nice Daniele.
Is this the mother of the maruibo cauliflower x cauliflower seeds you offer in your seedlist?
Dan
Yes it is Dan!
And this is another in flower today, after many rainy days today it was sunny and warm!
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZArdm22ErP0/UKPGm38_qeI/AAAAAAAAHyY/KbMwW8a1GIc/s573/141120121476.jpg)
Amazing!
Happy pollination (:
Dan
thank you Dan, hope it will be fruitful!
here it is a small clustering form of maruibo:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Y5M_EOlRAL8/UOmdGouF0cI/AAAAAAAAIVg/nyhEiNB_zi8/s543/060120131635.jpg)
Plant is very promising, congratulations!
Some plants of A. maruibo
Some plants of A. maruibo
all very nice, but i really like the first one of your last post!
It is a plant that I purchased this summer from Thailand, I have two different clones and I hope that this year's bloom. Have a median line in the tubercle, which is interesting.
I really like the second one in the first photo it's newer tubercles have a very strange shape.
Hi Simon, thanks for the comment, the plant is a A.maruibo x mituibo.
love these two:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Sn9TseK6GSI/Ua4B2yPr0CI/AAAAAAAAJ48/geF_0Ln6D6I/w737-h553-no/040620132129.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9occG-wKODk/Ua4B7YQcxQI/AAAAAAAAJ5I/wO422hmW7I4/w737-h553-no/040620132132.jpg)
All two very beautiful, I really like the roughness of the second!
thanks! we love it too :)
finally...maruibo with fruit coming out:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_L_mad_h_oQ/UfQY1bWagqI/AAAAAAAALFc/giKwXD6uiGg/w654-h553-no/270720132321.jpg)
It is always a great satisfaction to see the result of the work of pollination, good harvest!
Great specimen, very round and fat!
Andrea.
Quote from: andrea.a on Sunday, 28 July 2013 - 19:42:21
Great specimen, very round and fat!
Andrea.
many thanks, it has some cauliflower genes too!
Quote from: Karlet on Sunday, 28 July 2013 - 19:04:56
It is always a great satisfaction to see the result of the work of pollination, good harvest!
yes, really! and it's a bigger satisfaction with arios since you have to wait a lot for fruits, not always they get pollinated and they come out suddenly after several months!!!
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hvU8NZldy3s/UiczFYBDTGI/AAAAAAAALi0/MGlJPKnlvEQ/s512/040920132632.jpg)
Beautiful specimen, has the tubercles very beautiful!
waiting for flowers :)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_evAyEPlRnU/UkrmXpbOMXI/AAAAAAAAMR0/rAsESIvNeC8/s512/WP_20131001_004.jpg)
a small one with buds:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YLZ8n6Uvyn4/Ull6QLo1aUI/AAAAAAAAMgc/fGUtZLwfxH8/w542-h577-no/WP_20131012_005.jpg)
I have tried to increase the quantity of A. maruibo (Daruma seiji).
The photo is 2 years old degrafted ones, sown seeds on 3rd September 2011.
Some of them were in flower last autumn.
(https://box.c.yimg.jp/res/box-s-xos677pzbgareyol3wk3lnrroi-1001?uid=a7dd960d-942c-40ae-b343-1c51a8efe7e1&etag=4ce2b7ab1381642624497963)
Quote from: Carlo & Daniele on Saturday, 12 October 2013 - 18:39:29
a small one with buds:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YLZ8n6Uvyn4/Ull6QLo1aUI/AAAAAAAAMgc/fGUtZLwfxH8/w542-h577-no/WP_20131012_005.jpg)
Beautiful plant, we hope the weather stays for a nice bloom.
Quote from: Frank on Sunday, 13 October 2013 - 07:46:55
I have tried to increase the quantity of A. maruibo (Daruma seiji).
The photo is 2 years old degrafted ones, sown seeds on 3rd September 2011.
Some of them were in flower last autumn.
(https://box.c.yimg.jp/res/box-s-xos677pzbgareyol3wk3lnrroi-1001?uid=a7dd960d-942c-40ae-b343-1c51a8efe7e1&etag=4ce2b7ab1381642624497963)
Beautiful plants Frank, the growth they have done in 2 years is amazing!
That the cultivation method you use? I live in northern Italy and following the natural growth of plants I think it takes me twice as long to get plants as well :(
G'morning Carlo
The method of maruibo on the photo was:
1. Grafted 40 days old seedlings onto Pereskiopsis stocks in spring
2. kept the scion with stock in organic base pottingmix with an organic fertilizer
3. Loosing all leaves of Pereskiopsis in 2nd winter in here and you can not expect further good growing
4. Degrafted with a short Pereskiopsis sticks, 15 mm in spring when the scion was 2 years old
5. Roots will come from the stock initially and the scion relies on the stock a while.
Maruibos on the attached photo are the situation of item 5.
6. Since Pereskiopsis is not a permanent stock, it will die eventually but before that roots come out from the scion and switch over
7. Prerskiopsis will die in 2~3 years. Roots coming out from the scion are fine roots, not a taproot.
Frank
Good morning Frank,
Thank you very much for the very clear explanation of the method that you use.
I'll definitely try next year.
I know that you used it with retusus CV. that is the most easily to emit roots in the family Ariocarpus.
I know that the sp fissuratus are harder to put down roots, have experience of these?
G'morning Carlo
Fissuratus related SP are difficult to do a normal degrafting.
When you cut a part of body, liquid comes out continuously and is hard to stop.
It will rot out as the result.
Japanese use a special degrafting method for fissuratus SP named "Zuituki Orishi".
You have to select the grafting stock at first. It should be a Hylocereus.
When the scion grown large enough possibly in 3~4 years, degraft with a short stock around 20 mm.
Remove all soft tissue and remained vascular bundle only.
You have to set it up immediately for rooting without drying.
The top-dressing of pottingmix should be rooting medium to consider roots coming out from the scion in future.
In this method, you are not necessary to cut any parts of the scion.
zui: vascular bundle
tuki: attached
oroshi: degrafting
This method utilizes the characteristic of non- permanent stock as same as Pereskiopsis.
Roots will come out from the vascular bundle initially and switched over to the scion later.
I believe you can use pereskiopsis stock also.
I did Hylocereus Zuituki oroshi for fissuratus, lloydii and intermedius with successful result.
Frank
Good morning Frank.
Thank you for sharing your experience with us!
I use peresk for no permanent stok, so I'll try with these.
Years ago I bought some big plants Aztekium hintonii, which were grown by this method that thou hast described.
Now I'm past 4 or 5 years since they were potted low and the roots of Hylo. are still active.
I hope sooner or later to see the roots of Aztekium, but it must be very difficult and slow to take root.
It takes a lot of patience!
Thank you Frank for such interesting informations. Your plants on the pic above are amazing!
Andrea.
thanks Frank for the interesting info :)
here it is the plant above in flower:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P9z9u60d2ZA/Um-uClGkyfI/AAAAAAAAMmc/4j87zojnlbw/w494-h576-no/20131029_122356.jpg)
2 seedling plants
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1391598_10202406794279255_1003585238_n.jpg)
small promise
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1450165_219336024916102_848477270_n.jpg)
Congratulations to all, beautiful plants! Here I put a picture of a small grafted plant earlier this year.
very nice round tubercles Karlet
maruibo breeding, a young plant grafted on myrtillo:
(https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/v/t1.0-9/p480x480/10666086_292522844271500_715102549984571034_n.jpg?oh=345eda368be2e7f3bbb27c0a1b0a4002&oe=549E4579)
maruibo breeding
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p526x296/535906_305779229612528_7116471326888626567_n.jpg?oh=bc9fd4e16b3f22b918754f9daceee170&oe=54BBF8ED&__gda__=1420604930_807396f3cc7e010c8dfe86d6750c4a1b)
with open flower
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3N-qpO-dWD8/VE5Wd_7KZ9I/AAAAAAAARwE/LG5NlLjztZM/w673-h577-no/20141024_123329.jpg)
newbies!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11137141_370308309826286_7993398512541521909_n.jpg?oh=e23666a83e7424363f80713c8bc5a795&oe=55D984D7&__gda__=1440503307_ced434e3aa3f254bc371432c9c0b8777)
It is now flowering season of Ariocarpus in here.
The photo is a degrafted one.
(https://box.c.yimg.jp/res/box-s-xos677pzbgareyol3wk3lnrroi-1001?uid=d7cd0619-abdf-460c-b8e6-2abe1ce7ce22&etag=1f980f1d1429225861281226)
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/12193495_450640338459749_2772725611083935482_n.jpg?oh=19d73f4a24b131315e84a7841f781ca5&oe=56C2DE05)
Degrafted 2 years old Daruma-seiji
(https://box.c.yimg.jp/res/box-s-xos677pzbgareyol3wk3lnrroi-1001?uid=a0f57ae5-7627-49ec-b25a-b929c8095fd3&etag=045329c31447720505602535)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VpjH3vBV8NOx2amj4lyRiY7B9dZRFuxQdpWEz36IZRDu=s577-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dTNdz2MMckSbmSSBwt8tSYtobGU7DGPewRKeIDplMqbu=s577-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/k2IjHgoWjx2J6_wR1ktkrNsYlfUmsefPRCnsKPapnATn=s577-no)
Since cacti have grown and pushed pot out, I repotted them into larger pots.
I posted them on 13th October 2013, same ones.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RfLq3pOVV2U/Vr-k3qhK_qI/AAAAAAAAD94/ZJbjS8alen8/s576-Ic42/IMG_2107.JPG)
amazing growth Frank! Which kind of soil do you use for own roots arios? These are degrafted with a piece of stock or totally degrafted? thanks
Short Pereskiopsis stocks are attached on cacti but own-roots have also developed on some of them.
The potting mix is pumice sand 60% and organic material 40%.
Since you have to allow development of roots from cacti, zeoliteis used for the to-dressing.