The character of hanazono is normally appeared when a plant became a mature age.
When you grafted the plant, the character would appear earlier and was exaggerated.
The history of hanazono cultivar is unknown.
Grafted plant (with a short stock buried in pottingmix)
(https://inlinethumb26.webshots.com/47129/2233115690044113659S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2233115690044113659qHNFoQ)
Own-root seedlings
(https://inlinethumb02.webshots.com/49473/2637573610044113659S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2637573610044113659AUMnyr)
super kabuto seedlings
Starting to show hanazono character
(https://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/49279/2819735380044113659S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2819735380044113659nDPOmP)
(https://i39.tinypic.com/flizko.jpg)
(https://i42.tinypic.com/znvl9e.jpg)
(https://i42.tinypic.com/2nbexpt.jpg)
(https://i41.tinypic.com/2r7r144.jpg)
Really nice plants Frank and sharkxing!
superkabuto hanazono are really nice and not easy to find or obtain, these are two seedlings from superkabuto hanazono as motherplant:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_pfhkTVtKUs/Tl0Qj_Pg-FI/AAAAAAAAE_I/rMtSiMUeTOg/s512/30082011124.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FR9eoJMIaVw/Tl0QlGVsUDI/AAAAAAAAE_M/XmeHi3kEZoo/s512/30082011125.jpg)
that is my ungrafted hanazonokabuto
(https://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm4/cortonafoto/010-1.jpg)
that is one of the grafted
(https://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm4/cortonafoto/008-1.jpg)
this for me is the first year i can obtain seeds from my plants so i'm very in hury to sow it!
i do have one wich is a little fertile as female, not so marked but produced to me some tenth seedlings as female.. will see how they do grow. not grafting them for now.
will post photo asap :)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fVC1kuWss_w/Tr7PmGeydCI/AAAAAAAAEIE/M1aklpYuuQ4/s800/PICT2214.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dG4QhLFt9JY/Tr7PnCIYUoI/AAAAAAAAEIE/e1iX9LcJinE/s800/PICT2216.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ikaanw07Lrs/TiCruXzxDGI/AAAAAAAADlA/QtCTtk6z7dw/s800/BILD1457.jpg)
hanazono with flowers !
This is own root hanazono kabuto.
It has started to show hanazono chracter and to increase number of ribs.
The current size is 15 cm diameter but I hope it reches to 20 cm or more.
When you crossed so many time, the body of kabuto became smaller.
I think this one was not crossed so many times.
(https://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/39586/2892119620044113659S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2892119620044113659cJQBBO)
ooohhhhh sooo beautiful...the big size caracter is something i hope to find in my plants...i dislike so much the ones that are undersized, it looks so ..miserable...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Uib_HbK4KtQ/SnRXhz8bqxI/AAAAAAAAAD8/IhKqB-WsVks/s720/100_4122.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-52eij4nsq_s/Sq6gp0Pg5_I/AAAAAAAAArY/VlZWOAz4rhU/s720/100_4953.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Dp4O9ZNuBPY/Sq6ittAcKFI/AAAAAAAAAsc/HplzkzltD5M/s720/100_4916.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eHGNQS_p5Ms/S6J4tj4mpMI/AAAAAAAAB8c/u2B0iILt3_M/s720/005.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rXhlQyN_pjE/TsKekj4frQI/AAAAAAAAFs8/WC0Os_q53-k/s720/033.JPG)
Sandro, THE star shaped ones are really impressive.
i think that a part of size is epigenetic (pump it and give it time! ;D), but effectively i do have some SK with are now growing taller, and not larger... >:(
so probably some genetic traits are involved...
i noticed that most of star flat asterias grow bigger than the normal ones... is this the reason for their price?
@ Frank, sharkxing, vandessel1962:, xwa27 and cortona. C & D, yours are promising too.
Beautiful plants guys...
The original miracle kabuto was star shape, a large plant.
http://www.shaboten.com/Pict/miracle0.jpg (http://www.shaboten.com/Pict/miracle0.jpg)
I think star shaped kabutos are mixed with some miracle gene in history.
Whey your crossed kabutos manytimes, plant size becomes small.
All Japanese kabutos have been crossed manytimes already and body sizes are small.
They have tried to regain size and started to use Calles kabuto (F1).
colour variation...
one of mine..
(https://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/38832_147055915308608_100000126016157_456369_6759417_n.jpg)
(https://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/38131_147055995308600_100000126016157_456375_3339553_n.jpg)
@ Parchis
nice nice nice nice nice nice! :)
Here is mine:
(https://files.cactus-love.webnode.sk/200000468-1b8b41c860-public/IMG_3362.jpg)
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Parents are JAPAN imports
superkabuto V-type hanazono
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8VVhgX2XAbg/T7FgaoCUsKI/AAAAAAAAGHI/u_7hEVOWYIg/s437/06052012778.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9D2zBCLqg3A/T759P5KgiiI/AAAAAAAAGhE/VVXrlM-G8lw/s800/034.JPG)
hanazono in flower today!
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RwGTO60kBm0/T9Yor_m4sHI/AAAAAAAAGQo/-_jhvxJ3scQ/s536/11062012927.jpg)
Hi C&D, Lovely plants...
and the superkabuto hanazono V-type in flower too:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--FPsY859pY0/T-h1M8QqfhI/AAAAAAAAGZY/V09EJxDu5Os/s509/25062012972.jpg)
here it is a five ribs form, hope it will mantain them also when bigger:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5OYX_s2R4tY/Ud7I4TyHRxI/AAAAAAAAK64/S2zimbV1_nc/w550-h553-no/100720132238.jpg)
two other nice plants:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OwuaVRCjKkI/UiUarYE9dJI/AAAAAAAALhE/WNPJg8DgW4Q/w515-h553-no/020920132622.jpg)
Great plants! Make me pretty jealous... ;)
Here is mine in flower
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OURk4Xp__Ek/UcDINkPSPPI/AAAAAAAAFYU/sy_4DKsvGjs/w984-h767-no/e_r_IMG_8351.jpg)
(https://scontent-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11102756_1642216879341472_5698392042001985324_n.jpg?oh=4a2b5046754f60b0b09879b245c92f93&oe=55BF372D)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1977106_1604182153144945_2075651649020634879_n.jpg?oh=361dbe540b3d8efc33dcf0396a54f1ac&oe=55D61A60&__gda__=1440235274_205727b3ad6165ee570fcccd9e0791f3)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1510877_1604182169811610_1831187552463060452_n.jpg?oh=da407524a3e6f7036652d45db8f57777&oe=55DD3963&__gda__=1438874889_2ad5e7ffea4e165b904f3260ff9cf38e)
(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/t31.0-8/s960x960/12113270_444601532396963_4448536815890198886_o.jpg)
It is the flowering season of asterias currently in here.
(https://box.c.yimg.jp/res/box-s-xos677pzbgareyol3wk3lnrroi-1001?uid=d0240631-7d05-4c22-a346-e9e9a8740a7c&etag=ed91810e1444638135335993)
nice Frank! Nice to see astros in flower when here arios are ending their flowering season :)
I have tried to develop a red flowering hanazono kabuto.
The photo is a grafted 1st filial one, just 1 year old.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C1NM5cfbFfw/Vqk0RmQZCWI/AAAAAAAADzo/fjZMK0rmONQ/s512-Ic42/IMG_2061.JPG)
very nice Frank, we tried the same in the past with no big success. Do you have other plants in flower?
Yes I do.
I grafted 24 seedlings in total.
Hanazono kabuto x red flowering asterias-12
Red flowering asterias x hanazono kabuto-12
I have attached their photo.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Cq2svqZyGus/VqvkQR99bhI/AAAAAAAAD08/k6Zzw6vI4cw/s640-Ic42/IMG_2065.JPG)
Great view Frank.
It seems all of them are soft red flowering, or did you notice a difference between the two cross?
And the hanazono character is carried put most when it is used as mother or father in this case?
many thanks
Flower color: No difference between both crosses
Hanazono character: Only 1 scion shows hanazono character at moment, which is hanazono kabuto x red flowering asterias.
Since hanazono character is normally shown in a mature age, I have to wait a while.
They are still 1 year old.
beautifull ! great succes rate !
These are some great results Frank. Beautiful plants.
I tried the same cross, the Red flower was the seed parent because it seems less common for the red trait to breed true. The two parents were my top individuals of each type, the hanazono has strong genes and shows its character from small size. It took a year to have the two in flower at the same time and only produced about a dozen seeds that made around 8 seedlings. The first plant flowered recently with nice colour....now just hoping the Hanazono character comes through aswell. This one is off setting so it can be propagated if it looks good for both traits.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1704/24923968405_5130ae8e17_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DYrRtc)
great topic! hanazono trait is not so easy, we tried the same few years ago, need to see if we labelled correctly.