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Title: How long for a myrio kikko?
Post by: gk80 on Friday, 30 December 2011 - 03:48:43
Hello!!
Do you know how long will take to apear kikko character?
A few months ago I sowed a lot of kikko seeds for the first time but I still can't see anyone with characteristic kikko ribs.
Since this is my first time sowing kikko I don't know what to expect.
I didn't graft. All seedlings own roots and about 1.5cm.
I would like to know your opinion. I don't know if I should discard the seedlings or wait a little longer.

Thank you!!
Title: Re: How long for a myrio kikko?
Post by: fanecchissimo on Friday, 30 December 2011 - 10:30:52
depends on the quality of seeds. some can start to show signs at 5 cm minimum.
but if they don't show any kind of kikko sign in a year from now, you will not obtain well marked plants...
Title: Re: How long for a myrio kikko?
Post by: gk80 on Monday, 02 January 2012 - 02:38:31
Thank you for your help!!
Most of the seeds comes from my own kikkos.
I did several crossings:
kikko x trico
trico x kikko
kikko nudum x kikko kohyo
fukuryou nudum x kikko nudum

There're a few seedlings that look somehow different. The lines conecting one areole to the next areole is a straight line instead of a seamless curve like the regular myriostigma. But since I've never seen a young kikko seedling, I don't know what to look for.

Title: Re: How long for a myrio kikko?
Post by: fanecchissimo on Monday, 02 January 2012 - 14:49:29
wait and you will see. the best ones become to show some kikko signs, lightly marked, as little as 4 cm or below...
Title: Re: How long for a myrio kikko?
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Monday, 02 January 2012 - 15:45:00
from kikko nudum seeds, 3 y.o. own root plant, the photo was taken in 2010

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2VMSkHFNhL4/S-Q6pI8JySI/AAAAAAAAB0A/u0uxQcFJuIs/s640/CIMG3034.JPG)
Title: Re: How long for a myrio kikko?
Post by: marazz53 on Monday, 02 January 2012 - 20:35:34
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3X8MHZkfLsI/TJXqouP_2nI/AAAAAAAAa38/EXsOol-gbyo/s640/31-Astrophytum-myriostigma-cv.-onzuka-%252527KIKKO%252527.jpg)
Astrophytum myriostigma cv. "Onzuka  KIKKO" (4 months old from C&D seeds, sawn 4 months late arrivals).
Title: Re: How long for a myrio kikko?
Post by: Nata Ellis on Monday, 02 January 2012 - 21:53:04
For last 3 year I've done a lot of cross-pollinations and usually 5% shows fantastic results from the very beginning (new forms, unusual colours etc.), 10-20% shows good results (features of both mother-father plants) next year, 50% shows weak results in 2-3 years, 20% - simple forms, nothing special.

Usually I keep only plants which has shown interesting forms by the age of 1 year...

Regards
Nata
Title: Re: How long for a myrio kikko?
Post by: gk80 on Tuesday, 03 January 2012 - 03:45:34
Thank you very much!!
Your comments are very helpful  ;D
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