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Cactus Cultivars => Specialist cultivation techniques => Topic started by: Ariocarpus on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 09:01:28

Title: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 09:01:28
Hello,

today I will show you my vegetativ graftings from acm.
I have 9 different clons, from this I make grafts and seeds every year.
With this article, I will show you my work this year 2010.

(https://i27.servimg.com/u/f27/13/57/22/87/p1030630.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=758&u=13572287)
graftings from spring 2011 on bigger F. glaucescens, clon 1-3

few months later:

(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/p1050028.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1035&u=13572287)

(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/p1050029.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1036&u=13572287)

you can see the first:

(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/p1050811.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1180&u=13572287)

the next graftings, august 2011. New clons from köhres:

(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/p1050812.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1181&u=13572287)

A slowly plant from the same grafting in spring 2011:
(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/acm_kl11.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1244&u=13572287)

autumn 2011:
the numbers on the labels are the clon numbers

(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/p1060510.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1318&u=13572287)

(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/p1060511.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1320&u=13572287)

Now, the first plants are ready to sale - they are all away from this year. I keep a few plants for the mother asset flexible-carnose and the tuberkels of acm can better drive out after 1-2 months after grafting.

I hope I can show you some of my grafting.
Daniel

Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 09:05:39
And now....(all the same plant! - a example)

1 Months after grafting:
(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/p1050027.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1034&u=13572287)

3 Months after grafting:
(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/p1050810.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1179&u=13572287)

6 Months after grafting - with the first flower-bud:
(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/acm_kl10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1243&u=13572287)

Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 09:09:14
Some seedlings:

(https://i53.tinypic.com/i5vu4x.jpg)
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Astro on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 10:55:36
Super!
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: xwa27 on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 13:08:41
good job my freinds
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: cortona on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 14:15:53
i agree super good job, i've see the kotsokoibeyanus crest too! nice  plants!!!
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Astro on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 14:30:27
Yes, it agree, is what to look and except caput medusae. I here for myself have noted Supercabuto with pink flower:o
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 17:06:37
Quote from: Astro on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 14:30:27
I here for myself have noted Supercabuto with pink flower:o

I have make a new thread: https://www.cactuscultivars.com/forum/index.php?topic=234.0

Quote from: cortona on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 14:15:53
... i've see the kotsokoibeyanus crest too...

I can make a new thread if you will.
Crests are from mcdowelli, albiflora and elephantidens.

My best cresta of ariocarpus you can see in my avatar.

Good weekend!
Daniel
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: cortona on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 19:52:49
i'm realy interested in crested ario so...a new tread about this plants  are realy of my interest!!!
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 20:01:23
OK - i will make it tomorrow!
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: gattopardo on Sunday, 18 December 2011 - 09:19:40
beautiful job Daniel... are very good..!!!
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Sunday, 18 December 2011 - 13:46:15
Dear Daniel, wonderful results and thanks for the report!
It seems it works very well with fero glaucescens...we have few questions.
How do you cut the pieces of tubercles, half and a half on the length or you cut only a slice that you trow away and keep the bigger part for grafting? Does it work better with the top of tubercles or with the bottom part?
And in your first photo, the piece of tubercle is not put in the middle of fero, does it sprout like the other grafts?

thanks a lot
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Sunday, 18 December 2011 - 18:56:00
Hello!

Yes, F. glaucescens is the best for acm.
I cut half and half, than i took the pieces on the glaucescens (2-3 tuberkel).
it`s equal if you need the top or the bottom of the turbercel.

I graft 2-3 tubercels per ferocactus. sometimes there gos 1-2 dead, so there is only 1 tubercel per ferocactus, so it`s right or left on the stock, but this isn`t bad, all cast out!

Best wishes,
daniel
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: fanecchissimo on Sunday, 18 December 2011 - 19:59:23
nice work! keep it up! :)

did you try the same method with others stock?
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: cactuspassion on Thursday, 22 December 2011 - 06:52:34
Quote from: Ariocarpus on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 09:09:14
Some seedlings:

(https://i53.tinypic.com/i5vu4x.jpg)

ggrrrrrr!!!!!!!!

I never had any positive results with this damn plant......



Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: kikko on Thursday, 22 December 2011 - 08:52:33
Thanks for sharing your expirience, last year I did only one graft the same way, its still the same as I graft it.  How long does it takes for the digito to star showing new tubercules???
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Thursday, 22 December 2011 - 17:50:00
Hello kikko!

1 - 6 months! The last plants came this year in october!
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: kikko on Thursday, 22 December 2011 - 18:57:59
Thank you so much Ariocarpus.
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: marazz53 on Wednesday, 28 March 2012 - 09:47:35
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Yj58EJvr2Q0/S1hWRvtxHOI/AAAAAAAAJGs/qWbt9VobDaI/s640/12-Astrophytum-caput-medusae-5-months-from-seed..jpg)
Astrophytum caput medusae 5 months from my seeds.
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: marazz53 on Friday, 30 March 2012 - 22:42:11
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NRZh-Hci2NI/T3YWV3N9zbI/AAAAAAAAseY/bVZyxNa1AKY/s640/58-Astrophytum-caput-medusa.jpg)
Astrophytum caput-medusae (11 months old).
(https://astrophytum%20caput-medusae%20(11%20months%20old).)
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Saturday, 31 March 2012 - 06:32:51
Great plants! Wonderful!
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: marazz53 on Sunday, 01 April 2012 - 14:36:41
Hi Ariocarpus, THANKS, for your appreciation.
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: kikko on Sunday, 01 April 2012 - 20:06:05
I had 10 plants from seeds, they all die when I repoted them.. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: marazz53 on Sunday, 01 April 2012 - 23:24:19
Hi kikko, I leave them to dry for 3 weeks before I repot and water them. Try it, and tell me how you go...
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: danskibsted on Saturday, 07 April 2012 - 19:59:20
Quote from: Ariocarpus on Saturday, 17 December 2011 - 09:01:28
(https://i27.servimg.com/u/f27/13/57/22/87/p1030630.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=758&u=13572287)


Very nice work. What is the successrate with this method?
I have grafted whole digitostigma plants before, but it is quite difficult, so I might try to experiment with your method instead.
Keep up the good work (:
Dan
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Saturday, 07 April 2012 - 23:19:48
Hello Dan!

The sucessrate is 80-90%!

Its important that you have worm weather...then you must graft in the morning!

Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: danskibsted on Sunday, 08 April 2012 - 08:44:57
Thanks for the tip! I will give it a try!
Dan
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Sunday, 27 May 2012 - 07:43:51
Some graftings from yesterday:

(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/00134.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=2705&u=13572287)

(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/00231.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=2706&u=13572287)
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: danskibsted on Sunday, 27 May 2012 - 08:23:17
Great work!
I just made 10 digi grafts with your method 1 week ago. I am very exited to see how they turn out.
Your method is super easy, so I hope it works well for me also (:
Dan
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Sunday, 27 May 2012 - 09:08:20
Wish you good luck Dan!
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: AstrophytumCultivars.com on Wednesday, 30 May 2012 - 22:42:54
Hello,

As I see you use Trichoc.passacana, I would better use other stock to increase growth ;)
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Thursday, 31 May 2012 - 18:52:55
Who use T. pasacana?!
These are ferocactus glaucescens..
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: danskibsted on Sunday, 03 June 2012 - 20:25:24
Quote from: Ariocarpus on Sunday, 27 May 2012 - 09:08:20
Wish you good luck Dan!

Thank you! Now the grafts are 14 days old, so I removed the rubberbands. Most of them look nice, but I noticed that some of the digi's are dried out... have you got any experience with this problem?
Dan
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: AstrophytumCultivars.com on Monday, 04 June 2012 - 09:26:06
Quote from: danskibsted on Sunday, 03 June 2012 - 20:25:24
Thank you! Now the grafts are 14 days old, so I removed the rubberbands. Most of them look nice, but I noticed that some of the digi's are dried out... have you got any experience with this problem?
Dan

Sorry :)

But even that, according to dates you put there, it looks that they grow very slow
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: fanecchissimo on Monday, 04 June 2012 - 19:18:00
keep it up boys. i am curious, i tried just once but i failed  >:(. i will give it a try again in july...  :)

Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Tuesday, 05 June 2012 - 21:41:28
from my actuelly graftings, there are three who dry out!
The other 27 are very good, I think that they will grow.
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Wednesday, 18 July 2012 - 20:04:17
Some of my acm grafts:

(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/00538.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=3098&u=13572287)
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: danskibsted on Thursday, 19 July 2012 - 07:20:34
Very impressive! Keep us updated.
My "test-grafts" are doing well also! So far no offsets, but I hope they will start to pup soon.
Dan
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Ariocarpus on Saturday, 18 August 2012 - 11:06:23
4 weeks later:

(https://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/13/57/22/87/46510.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=3199&u=13572287)(https://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/13/57/22/87/46610.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=3200&u=13572287)(https://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/13/57/22/87/46710.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=3201&u=13572287)
(https://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/13/57/22/87/46810.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=3202&u=13572287)
(https://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/13/57/22/87/46910.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=3203&u=13572287)
(https://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/13/57/22/87/47010.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=3204&u=13572287)
(https://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/13/57/22/87/47110.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=3205&u=13572287)
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Sunday, 19 August 2012 - 19:32:33
very good! compliments
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: bouldering on Wednesday, 20 March 2013 - 19:21:30
Very inspiring! How are they now? I will definitely try this next year. :)
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: hendryterok on Thursday, 09 May 2013 - 07:46:48
Quote from: Ariocarpus on Sunday, 27 May 2012 - 07:43:51
Some graftings from yesterday:

(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/00134.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=2705&u=13572287)

(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/00231.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=2706&u=13572287)

Hi Ariocarpus,
From what I can see(correct me if Im wrong), there are some tubercle without areoles you grafted, arent they?
Just received my acm and have a plan to graft for spare, after looking at its tubercles they only have 1 areole each
Can I graft without areole?

Thanks in advance
Hendry
Title: Re: Graftings with caput medusae
Post by: lophofan on Sunday, 10 July 2016 - 15:08:46
Wow very awesome!!

It looks like you are not even intersecting the cores.  Is this not necessary with this species? All cacti?

I only have one ACM graft and it grew for a year, lost it's tubercles, then grew them back while growing a huge body.