some of the plants from our collection:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Bw0zDKsnOJI/SvRZY5UvjuI/AAAAAAAAAPs/QMki_n6u1ac/s512/CIMG2442.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XIK66UTWWRA/SvRYkwFPiMI/AAAAAAAAAOQ/VVm9-RHwtyE/s512/CIMG1383.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J4zDao_JjFQ/TjHukNHjnZI/AAAAAAAAEwQ/fktG16MCfFo/s512/28072011011.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZLlbLykKACQ/SvRYb39vpEI/AAAAAAAAAOA/fJn9zuq94o0/s512/CIMG0242.JPG)
and some results from these plants:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PwGhpz3TIg8/TMwxO5C1JNI/AAAAAAAADg0/0Yhipe72tvE/s576/CIMG3501.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FznMFD-ZDSc/Tkmp2RY7yxI/AAAAAAAAE6w/tNOtMtAEbyQ/s512/14082011092.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Hx_R3eWwJHY/ThXCWVu2ORI/AAAAAAAAEYs/osfv_rKmxr0/s512/CIMG3822.JPG)
what do you think about them?
Hello every body!
Carlo & Daniele, your asterias kikko are very nice!
I like especially the small one with big areoles. I think the Thai call it 'Mama Kikko" because it has big tubers.
Astrophytum asterias cv Kikko is the best cultivar for me! It is the prettiest among all astrophytum cultivar!!
Here are someone of my collection:
Typical pattern:
(https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/500664asteriaskikko3.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=500664asteriaskikko3.jpg)
(https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/406750asteriaskikko2.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=406750asteriaskikko2.jpg)
x Super Kabuto:
(https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/646745asteriaskikko5.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=646745asteriaskikko5.jpg)
(https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/850579asteriaskikko1.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=850579asteriaskikko1.jpg)
Special pattern:
(https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/392158asteriaskikko4.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=392158asteriaskikko4.jpg)
little 'Muscle':
(https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/382195asteriaskikko.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=382195asteriaskikko.jpg)
:)
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Some flowers:
(https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/891582asteriaskikkoflower.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=891582asteriaskikkoflower.jpg)
(https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/418847asteriaskikkoflower1.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=418847asteriaskikkoflower1.jpg)
(https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/966892asteriaskikkoflower2.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=966892asteriaskikkoflower2.jpg)
I tried to cross these two plants, but I didn't have seeds :'( maybe there are from the same clone?
(https://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/919558asteriaskikkoflower3.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=919558asteriaskikkoflower3.jpg)
With asterias Kikko, I don't have many seeds in general... :( and you?
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All your plants are really beautiful, I haven't yet kikko in my collection but it's in my project of nex year ! Maybe I will begin with seed because I'm curious of their growth.
i do LOVE asterias kikko! i have few, will post soon the pictures, but i think they are fantastic! ;D
Quote from: Carlo & Daniele on Saturday, 29 October 2011 - 18:24:36
some of the plants from our collection:
what do you think about them?
They are gorgeous .. Very good work :)
Quote from: mrkabuto on Sunday, 30 October 2011 - 01:57:05
With asterias Kikko, I don't have many seeds in general... :( and you?
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We have few motherplants of asterias kikko but they produce quite a lot of seeds.
The one you like, the nudum with big tubercles if from seed of the plant in the first photo.
The second one is less marked than the first one, but it has a very nice flower and it produces good seeds!
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WJImtX5784k/Tj0XFxVn34I/AAAAAAAAFNA/6YwabFGDbUw/s720/006.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RR4W4Gd36Eg/TbMqND217AI/AAAAAAAAEp0/U2XHHUPiCf0/s720/047.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lpE4gQomWGE/TbMqKc0Lo2I/AAAAAAAAEps/3gmTgUAYi2g/s720/018.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-SmAB3UVB6zo/SnXzHU1RyKI/AAAAAAAAAbU/oMZWGwhpvCg/s720/100_4665.jpg)
great plants Sandro! love the geometry of the second one, and the last one is simply outstanding.
I don't have much luck so...
I had several Kikko blooms this year, but only one gave me seeds... :'(
I have many plants that look sterile, especially in clones from China. Those from Thailand are better, they do a lot of seeds.
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The first and the last are very strange!
I like the white form one, very nice!
:)
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it seems all the nicest forms of asterias kikko are in Malta !
congrats
oh I recognize the last, I had put on Astroweb!
here : http://www.cactuspro.com/astro-web/cultivars-asterias#les-cultivars-d-asterias-selectionnes-sur-la-forme
elsewhere thank you for allowing me to take your pictures to the site;)
the first and the last are incredible!!! ;)
yes it's true, i think it's because of cloning from offset. Many clustering plants are not fertile.
that's why we prefer to produce new plants from seed.
Asterias kikko
Nice plant Astro!!!
Thanks
My asterias kikko
@ SEA i like your last kind of kikko, i do have a similar one, which lost stock but i saved on another..
it is a bit different from other forms, and particular!
Green buds
my kikko monster :)
great! pink flower? did you obtain seeds from it?
Hi to ALL exhibiters, Beautiful plants...Sandro your 3rd. and 4th. are magnificent...
Carlo&Daniele, I have several kikko plants with intensive pink colour of petals... but this monster was fertile... no seeds this year... but maybe next time...
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IeAVFISM5sk/TwNoADsiQ4I/AAAAAAAAAR0/Q6ig5Iu6_0I/s800/asterias%252520kikko%252520%252520shinshowa%252520.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wAYsPJy2W3s/TwNoBsq8dNI/AAAAAAAAAR4/IzHPA-v6i2U/s800/asterias%252520%252520kikko%252520japan-002.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gIlTrwc7R80/TwNoDZhAQ_I/AAAAAAAAASA/BI501WjtFhg/s800/asterias%252520%252520kikko%252520japan-001.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rkapWV43pog/TwNoF1Yla5I/AAAAAAAAASI/b0zbPY2PZ9k/s800/asterias%252520kikko-002.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FA0WKJNApxw/TwNoXPaGkKI/AAAAAAAAAS8/-b9o3DCkCP8/s800/sk%252520kikko-001.JPG)
(https://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/395731_354747791206085_100000126016157_1615207_66508396_n.jpg)
(https://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381452_354747831206081_100000126016157_1615208_2092604127_n.jpg)
(https://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397201_354747847872746_100000126016157_1615209_210397683_n.jpg)
(https://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380497_354748811205983_100000126016157_1615210_1748611221_n.jpg)
(https://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/298079_310322208981977_100000126016157_1463034_255505244_n.jpg)
Hi kikko, your 2nd. and 4th. are Lovely...
Thank you Marazz53
among normal kikko seedlings I have 2 monsters :) ... own roots.
The simple kikko seedlings
the last one looks like it can evolve in something special!compliments!
Thanks. I will observe.
My best flower
O M G that is a super beautiful flower i'm in love!!!!
super flower!
Hi gerd, Beautiful...
Small kikko multiheads ?
About 20% of my kikko seedlings show the same clustering... more then I expected:)
Hi Nata, Pretty seedlings...
thanks, Mario. Your multi-headed kikko is very attractive one!
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--Z4nSSenhJM/S-2oIK7rOaI/AAAAAAAAS74/RHgPRMtAWEU/s640/05-Astrophytum-asterias-nudum-cv-%2527KIKKO%2527-2.jpg)
Astrophytum asterias nudum cv. "KIKKO".
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ULqILNu6Jqk/S-2oVgMiFAI/AAAAAAAAS8E/sAR4dk2dmgY/s640/08-Astrophytum-asterias-nudum-cv-%2527KIKKO%2527-2.jpg)
Astrophytum asterias nudum cv. "KIKKO".
very nice plants and good flower!
To all the members: since some topics are becoming quite long for replies and so on, please open new topics dividing the cultivars for a specific character, for example all the kikko nudum and the results you got all in the same topic, all the fukuryu nudum in the same topic, all the white forms of fukuryu in the same topic...in order to have a more clear view.
thanks everybody!
Hi C&D, THANKS for your appreciation.
I created two topics for asterias kikko, this one is for SK kikko:
https://www.cactuscultivars.com/forum/index.php?topic=450.0
Daniele
(https://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120304-180635-353.jpg)(https://www.bildercache.de/bildercache_80x15.gif)
Astrophytum asterias cv. Kikko, grafted in Dez. 2011
This is a other hybrid...kikkos didn`t have spines.
A plant from Thai last year.
(https://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/57/22/87/00005_11.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1950&u=13572287)
usually lophophora havent spines too, but seedlings have ;)
yes, jourdaniana have, but they also have them, when they are adult plants ;D
So let`s see your asterias in a few month. Show than pictures here please.
Grafted seedlings often show spines when young...
:)
The plant now, growing well :)
(https://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120423-141856-150.jpg)(https://www.bildercache.de/bildercache_80x15.gif)
(https://www.bildercache.de/bild/20120423-141917-287.jpg)(https://www.bildercache.de/bildercache_80x15.gif)
Regards! \O/
another asterias kikko nudum, hope it will flower soon:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lcgToBrNyn0/T6-gQevPOEI/AAAAAAAAGF0/_JgKBLHbGWE/s512/12052012806.jpg)
kikko nudum grafted from seedling, it is still quite small but the flower is so big!
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LxyAfAsWzc0/T8zCsXSjqRI/AAAAAAAAGNs/jB51mlxuOg0/s512/04062012899.jpg)
nice plant !
kikko to
my asterias kikko
(https://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm4/cortonafoto/054.jpg)
(https://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm4/cortonafoto/2105.jpg)
(https://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm4/cortonafoto/2104.jpg)
@cortona: NICE!
The second one is nice! Does it mantain a quite regular shape and single headed when growing bigger?
thanks
i can tell it for sure, wen i buy the motherplant it was single headed and around 7 /8 cm after it start to produce a single sideshot, i've grafted this but soon i've lost the motherplant, after this the pup lost the apex and stop the growt for two years after this it start to pup and that is one if it grafted in spring.
best kikko graft 2012!!!
(https://i50.tinypic.com/2rny882.jpg)
(https://i48.tinypic.com/2dv08wn.jpg)
great ones David!
Thank's Dani!!
Is the second one from two "white" plants?
yes! ;D
offset from bigger plant -
Nata it are very very nice
3 small promising seedlings:
(https://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/560262_120037491512623_207394119_n.jpg)
(https://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/188289_120037468179292_1365087442_n.jpg)
(https://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/482618_120037451512627_2086586054_n.jpg)
Hello Carlo & Daniele, I thought later manifested kikko without grafting.
Seedlings look good, but maybe I 4 ??
greetings
some of them are marked since very young, these are about 1 cm across.
what do you mean with 'maybe I 4?'
thanks
I see four plants, two white and two nudum, is not it?
Regards
yes ut is, but the small one in the second photo has an unusual colour...will see its growth this spring
new clone
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/47128_3573209618792_1623639526_n.jpg)
nice plant San, here it is a nudum form with big flowers
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--Au0bw7F8VM/UYy6dXzPwiI/AAAAAAAAJbw/tupxBtzQzUo/w402-h509-no/070520132021.jpg)
kikko nudum
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9b0S-Dl_-SI/Ue8Fhjju7YI/AAAAAAAALA8/40cSgGchC4Y/w580-h553-no/230720132305.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qCI51UhSX04/Ue8FjYYsqPI/AAAAAAAALBA/FFRjhT8c2KQ/w580-h553-no/230720132308.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qXAcTFzmtgg/Ue8FlBi_ihI/AAAAAAAALBM/BskNEHOQHoA/w630-h553-no/230720132309.jpg)
do you like them?
last one really well marked! nice!
thanks fanec! the last one is grafted on peresk, I think it's also a bit older than the other two (grafted on myrtillo)
another nudum form, own breeding
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MW9YhCtnHnI/Uhc239nOnqI/AAAAAAAALbs/Zq27ShD4r1Q/w552-h553-no/220820132439.jpg)
small variegated seedlings...
Great seedlings!!!
Andrea
update:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1625541_249489865234051_2043236983_n.jpg)
Very good kikko form and no little splits which can be problem with these.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/oTsBz-yY1_mLZaNdK29GaFhbN5dj8KucXomN04Eps-c=w867-h650-no)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ntLfAXEeGC0/VJ2CpcAl3oI/AAAAAAAAR7A/I0cPvYYfzJo/w570-h577-no/20141220_123336.jpg)
my small 3 months old seedlings grafted...
Hello Nata,
your plants are very nice, thank you!
Nice to meet you here on board again, we miss you!
wonderful and very promising ones Nata!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2TAEDWksAiE/Vnqe21uoZAI/AAAAAAAAS88/Tbt7jxweq2o/s512-Ic42/20151222_152646.jpg)
(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/t31.0-8/s960x960/12471820_469038369953279_3927694648291291675_o.jpg)