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Cactus Cultivars => Astrophytum Cultivars => flower cultivars => Topic started by: Carlo & Daniele on Friday, 28 October 2011 - 20:25:44

Title: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Friday, 28 October 2011 - 20:25:44
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cUTbShvh9Ps/Tl0Qgo_WGKI/AAAAAAAAE_A/F18KFtt4-o0/s512/30082011121.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-IfxE_63gPaA/S-_6ByzFr_I/AAAAAAAAB6Q/JczwQP6BJ_M/s512/CIMG3050.JPG)

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Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Frank on Sunday, 30 October 2011 - 00:02:20
very nice shinshouwa kabutos
Just one plant is remained in my place. Buds come out quite often but is hard to open by unknown reason.
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Sunday, 30 October 2011 - 20:03:40
Thank you Frank. We have some own roots plants too, and for them it is quite hard to complete their bloom.
We think own roots plants are quite weak.
Maybe if the plants has a lot of buds, you can remove all and leave only one or two buds.
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Sunday, 30 October 2011 - 20:34:38
an own roots plant in flower:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Kqds71it5DM/SvAu08s1PTI/AAAAAAAAALc/-VaTAitLpb0/s512/CIMG2498.JPG)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Frank on Sunday, 30 October 2011 - 21:36:35
Carlo & Daniele

My plant is actually grafted on a Hylocereus stock. Although the scion becomes large, the stock becomes very weak now.
The flower was opened like this before.

(https://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/47866/2778624370044113659S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2778624370044113659HYZtoc)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: cortona on Thursday, 03 November 2011 - 21:23:31
realy realy a beautiful plant Frank...no words needed
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: sharkxing on Thursday, 03 November 2011 - 21:27:38
(https://i40.tinypic.com/11ueniu.jpg)

(https://i42.tinypic.com/15zo3rl.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Friday, 04 November 2011 - 17:11:32
Nice plants! a bit unusual that the plant makes one normal flower and another shinshowa!
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: fanecchissimo on Friday, 04 November 2011 - 19:46:17
@Frank
if the stock, for some reason, dies, you could re-graft on normal asterias. i did it for hanazono, it is easy and effective, you obtain a plant which grows slower, but it seems stable ( my one has 2 years only, but i think the stock will last as much as scion)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Frank on Friday, 04 November 2011 - 21:05:00
G'morning fanecchissimo

I understand you regraft an asterias cultivar scion onto a normal asterias stock.
It is possible but I have never try this way honenstly.
In the case of regrafting, the age and size of scion will affect on the result generally.
For eg my shinshouwa kabuto, grafted on a Hylocereus is 6years and 13 cm diameter.
It is too large to regraft, I think.

I use a large permanet stock for important scions for seeds collection currently.
I use Harrisia Jusbertii, 8 cm diameter and 60 cm height.
The stock life should be longet than the scion.
The normal asterias life is around 20 years and it will be shorter if the plant was grafted.
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: fanecchissimo on Saturday, 05 November 2011 - 13:42:25
interesting.

is it frost hardy?
because i only keep plants that can reach 0°celsius... it is a great pest control...
every astro i do have resist perfectly.
pereskiopsis velutina does the job, opuntias does the job, tricho does the job... echinopsis are quite unstable like myrtillocactus.
if it is, than i would be interested in knowing where to find it, to give it a try! :)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: cortona on Saturday, 05 November 2011 - 18:03:01
fanecchissimo harisia is more frost tollerant tam mirtillo for sure and for me it give to the scion a more natural form.
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: fanecchissimo on Saturday, 05 November 2011 - 23:46:19
interesting... will look for some,then! :)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Monday, 07 November 2011 - 15:53:13
Frank,

if the stock dies and the plant is too big to regraft you can regraft parts of it, cutting the plant into parts with some areoles on each part.
you can see it here:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lbFsm5pRKbk/TholBpyP9cI/AAAAAAAAEbM/qHE2VfPmDNQ/s512/04062011731.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Mestre on Monday, 07 November 2011 - 20:06:23
Amazing plants,diferent types and colours

Any one have crossed  this plant with anoter astrophytum like capricorne or coahuliense ?

Great  surgery work ,,carlo & danielle
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Frank on Monday, 07 November 2011 - 21:12:37
Carlo & Daniele

Thanks for your information.
I will try the  method.
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Hellonasty on Monday, 07 November 2011 - 23:04:14
WOW amazing thread! Thanks for the info everyone.

Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: gattopardo on Wednesday, 30 November 2011 - 18:17:07
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/254864_1917612713820_1647065803_1936111_5728362_n.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Wednesday, 30 November 2011 - 18:27:49
@ gattopardo:

great plant and flowers

@ Mestre:

we crossed with coahuilense, we will see in the future what will come out, do not know if it works with capricorne
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: marazz53 on Monday, 05 December 2011 - 20:10:12
Lovely plants...
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Astro on Sunday, 18 December 2011 - 10:15:03
I have a question. If who that sowed seeds asterias shinshowa and has already blossoming posterity. Whether this sign well is descended? What approximately percent from total? Whether as interests red shinshowa repeats posterity red colour and the form of flowers  . Why has decided to ask - the seller from Japan has answered me, that red shinshowa it is a difficult grade and very badly inherits the signs at reproduction by seeds. Whether so it? Who has experience, share supervision and results.
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Sunday, 18 December 2011 - 20:00:56
we have some plants of shinshowa yellow, but do not know a lot about the %, because we grafted only few of them and not all of them already flowered. One or two have shinshowa flowers. For sure we'll be able to have more data next summer.
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Sunday, 15 April 2012 - 18:05:55
new flower, spring 2012:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FxFGCDvXalo/T4rv6D79-eI/AAAAAAAAF78/glDKKCRSFR0/s512/15042012725.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: gk80 on Monday, 16 April 2012 - 04:14:05
This is mine. Koëhres seeds. Own roots.

It gives about 80 seeds per fruit but I still don't know if the resulting cross will be shinshowa.
Should I use this plant as mother or as father to get shinshowa plants?

(https://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz53/gk80/cactus/ab10.jpg)

(https://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz53/gk80/cactus/ab09.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Monday, 16 April 2012 - 12:48:22
Great plant!
we do not have many info about it, but we'd use it as father plant!
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: gk80 on Tuesday, 17 April 2012 - 01:57:40
Thanks alot!!!
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Thursday, 31 May 2012 - 19:53:46
another nice shinshowa in flower today

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6WGYrxkvr8c/T8etvJlcQaI/AAAAAAAAGLw/eSx3WjgKoxg/s578/28052012884.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Monday, 11 June 2012 - 19:44:06
shinshowa yellow, very thin petals:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MKdma_yU3i8/T9YopJqDi0I/AAAAAAAAGQY/70lSnX7hLzI/s513/08062012920.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: sharkxing on Tuesday, 12 June 2012 - 20:24:42
Hi guys very nice plants and photos!
these are my plants:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8Ig6XC5m_3s/TvoRf1lQCeI/AAAAAAAAAPo/5qFNMF7Qbns/s697/IMG_6451.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WLAvetyLq0o/TvoRNxaumAI/AAAAAAAAAO8/RX28UWlaeKw/s697/IMG_6418.JPG)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: dag on Wednesday, 13 June 2012 - 17:48:42
shin showa
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Wednesday, 13 June 2012 - 19:28:26
great plants! how large are they?
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Astro on Wednesday, 13 June 2012 - 22:39:30
dag,super!
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: dag on Thursday, 14 June 2012 - 15:50:39
plants are approx 10 cm diameter
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Tuesday, 19 June 2012 - 16:42:11
really good plants, are they on own roots?
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: dag on Tuesday, 19 June 2012 - 20:20:56
thanks, the plants are own roots but the taproot is cutted when they wer 3 year old, one is superkabuto-like and one is miracle-like, they are both star shaped
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Monday, 25 June 2012 - 16:38:56
asterias shinshowa yellow "king"

great flowers today from this plant:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yxccMO-ycJQ/T-h1MwPF-6I/AAAAAAAAGZc/r-jppf3CzH8/s564/25062012967.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3E8PGZYUA1o/T-h1tltH7JI/AAAAAAAAGZw/Leh7qwc-3bw/s564/25062012970.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: xwa27 on Monday, 25 June 2012 - 17:09:33
very nice dam complimenti  ;)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Tuesday, 26 June 2012 - 18:19:03
thank you sandro, just came back home and another surprise in the greenhouse:

asterias akabana shinshowa, grafted as seedlings, for the first time in flower

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-812LQ20HteE/T-nf_c7fINI/AAAAAAAAGaQ/31Cxyn-7dJE/s617/26062012975.jpg)

we are so proud of it!
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: marazz53 on Tuesday, 26 June 2012 - 19:27:01
Hi C&D, your last 3 photos are simply SPECTACULAR...
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: dag on Tuesday, 26 June 2012 - 22:12:23
congrats !! i am the first on the list for the offsets ...
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: fanecchissimo on Wednesday, 27 June 2012 - 12:25:48
@ Dag.. LOL  ;)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Monday, 02 July 2012 - 14:25:20
thak you! this year we will try to get some seeds from it and next year we'll probably cut it to try to clone!
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Wednesday, 11 July 2012 - 16:55:08
red wine shinshowa in flower today:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TB7MUGcGcgg/T_2Si1mSDJI/AAAAAAAAGgU/L_QbzIHNYfM/s513/110720121017.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: marazz53 on Wednesday, 11 July 2012 - 17:41:47
Hi C&D, really BEAUTIFUL...I like it...Congrats...
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: dag on Thursday, 12 July 2012 - 11:40:52
speechless
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Tuesday, 17 July 2012 - 11:28:17
many thanks guys
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Astro on Saturday, 11 August 2012 - 10:25:36
:)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Wednesday, 15 August 2012 - 21:32:40
great selection of flowers and plants!
did you notice if the variegated plant makes different flowers on the yellow part?
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Wednesday, 15 May 2013 - 18:55:06
happy couple

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-DSR93Pw1gL4/UZO2iZ8qIrI/AAAAAAAAJfE/mdSEDZpFqEo/w365-h509-no/090520132022.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: danskibsted on Friday, 17 May 2013 - 07:39:13
Amazing plants! I'm sure you are busy with the brush (:
Dan
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Karlet on Friday, 17 May 2013 - 14:44:20
Congratulations on the baby's future!
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Friday, 21 June 2013 - 21:17:11
thank you guys, another baby with buds!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-DUbjKVpxhj0/UcSjPBMxOcI/AAAAAAAAKAE/aIkdm5CxCt4/w631-h553-no/130620132163.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Astrofreak on Friday, 12 July 2013 - 22:46:54
Hey guys,

I just love all this Shinshowa plants. They are my favorit Flowers. I am looking for a long time for a ,, Asterias Shinshowa wine-red-flower´´, but I couldn´t find one ( maybe because I am running out of money  :P :P). They are fantastic.

To my own:

Well, this is my first comment. My name is Eric. I am from Germany and I am 17 years old. I collect cacti since 4 years. In the last 3 years I fall in love with the Astrophytums. Particularly the Japan-Hybrids.
I am sorry if my english is not perfect, but it should be enough to communicate  ::). My collection is even pretty little ( about 100-200 plants). But it grows....

Greetings Eric
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Ariocarpus on Saturday, 13 July 2013 - 07:19:01
Hello Eric,

nice to meet you!

Reguards
Daniel (Echinopsis)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Saturday, 13 July 2013 - 23:41:51
Hello Eric and welcome on the forum!
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: cortona on Monday, 15 July 2013 - 00:35:12
welcome Eric!
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Karlet on Wednesday, 17 July 2013 - 16:25:21
 Shinshowa yellow today in bloom
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Wednesday, 17 July 2013 - 17:46:07
very nice Karlet, compliments! is it grafted?
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Karlet on Wednesday, 17 July 2013 - 19:46:50
Yes its grafted on myrtillo.
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Wednesday, 21 August 2013 - 12:38:05
the family:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oeMe7J87Ri4/UhSJxLGQzHI/AAAAAAAALXM/SL9LthnwYnk/s512/IMAG0848.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Wednesday, 21 August 2013 - 12:38:46
one we particularly love, very thin long petals:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-sg6_VUsniCc/UhSJwCGglnI/AAAAAAAALXU/Wp45AnDb4_o/s512/IMAG0854.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: robinast on Wednesday, 21 August 2013 - 13:26:48
Nice plants, wonderful flowers!
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Simon on Saturday, 16 November 2013 - 07:47:11

I have had some shinshowa flowers recently, they are a bit smaller than ordinary asterias but very interesting.
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Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Karlet on Saturday, 16 November 2013 - 08:43:51
They are very beautiful flowers, I think that in this CV. is rare to find large flowers but very frequent small.
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Monday, 02 June 2014 - 23:53:37
shinshowa red

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FXrf2k1TruI/U4zuU36rb0I/AAAAAAAAObE/oJOV2vwA_wc/w536-h577-no/WP_20140601_012.jpg)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Saturday, 28 March 2015 - 20:07:17
the special shinshowa with very long petals shown above has a very nice pattern and areoles, what is the right name for it?

(https://scontent-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11072317_364310127092771_4321600098185617542_n.jpg?oh=e95563e177096c203ae6c00458d17e5f&oe=55ADB3B0)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Karlet on Thursday, 07 January 2016 - 11:26:40
A beautiful plant from seeds CeD with long petals!
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Thursday, 07 January 2016 - 16:19:03
those flowers are amazing Carlo! Congrats :)
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Thursday, 19 October 2023 - 14:57:02
showa red flower
Title: Re: asterias shinshowa
Post by: Carlo & Daniele on Thursday, 19 October 2023 - 14:58:22
showa red