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Offline Fran64

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Time variegated graft ?
« on: Saturday, 12 January 2013 - 19:29:45 »
Hi all, I have a few seedlings kiko asterias alien (sowing 22/12/12), I wonder what time survive without chlorophyll, right now I do not have rootstocks.
My seedlings are whitish and I worry your life.
I saw on the forum that have grafted plants without chlorophyll at 5 months.
My experience with Lobivia x Echinopsis hybrids has been 2 months and died.



I appreciate your help.

Best regards ....

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Re: Time variegated graft ?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday, 12 January 2013 - 21:40:43 »
Hi Fran,
I have found that Asterias seedlings like that usually don't last more than a couple of month own roots. Also the sooner you graft them the more likely they are to take and grow. I also find that albino seedlings even when grafted rarely make it through their first winter and they get scarred very easily by mites and rust.
If you are short of rooted stocks it is possible to graft onto cuttings without roots.

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Re: Time variegated graft ?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday, 13 January 2013 - 01:22:48 »
Hi Simon, thanks for your information.
The truth did not expect plants without chlorophyll, it seems that parents have.
I will get a harrisias shortly, maybe size too large (40 cms).
Also I have well-developed seedlings myriostigma 4 months of age, - observe their grafts (hypocotyl), - for after regrafting.
Another option is Echinopsis multiplex compensation, but very thorny.
What would you advise me?
Regarding mites and fungi, I have luck, outbreaks are rare.

Thanks for your interest, greetings.

Fran
« Last Edit: Sunday, 13 January 2013 - 06:16:01 by Fran64 »

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Re: Time variegated graft ?
« Reply #3 on: Monday, 14 January 2013 - 15:47:08 »
Hallo Fran, I too have just bought the seeds of A. asterias cv.kikko alien from a seller in the Czech republic, too, are all my plants without chlorophyll, and I have the same problem. Although grafted them all, the problem is that I would take out a bad genetics. I think I'll let their fate ... The thing that irritates me more is that seeds should be "safe" while it is not so! In the coming days I will write to the seller and I suggest you do the same too.
« Last Edit: Monday, 14 January 2013 - 16:53:22 by Karlet »
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Re: Time variegated graft ?
« Reply #4 on: Monday, 14 January 2013 - 21:15:59 »
Hello Carlo,  we talk about the same thing, I wrote and told me that is genetic
above.
Certainly I would not mind that without chlorophyll were 100%, but as you say, I'd like that were not all.
My problem has been lack of foresight, I found all variegated plants and do not have proper rootstock.
Soon we'll see will graft and its evolution.
I also agree with you, that when you ask for something selected, it is to be so, but sometimes genetics play these passes. It's good to show it to the seller, maybe in the future adding denominated variegation.
I wish you luck with your plants.  :)

Greetings and thanks for your information.

Fran


 

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