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different offsets from the same cut surface
« on: Thursday, 26 September 2013 - 00:53:57 »
We are cloning several plants cutting them in two parts. The lower parts sometimes makes offsets from the cut surface.
In this case the plant is a nishiki asterias. for the moment there are 3 offsets (two yellow and one green).
The lower yellow offset seems to sprout from the green part, is that normal?



will keep you update on how it develops
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Re: different offsets from the same cut surface
« Reply #1 on: Monday, 14 October 2013 - 14:37:10 »
Hi Carlo & Daniele,
This method is very interesting and would like to give it a try with some of my plants . . .
What the right season of the year to try it ? (Spring ?)
How big has to be the plant to get offsets ?
Did you cut the mother plant exactly in two parts ?
Please keep us updated !!!!
And good luck !!!!

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Re: different offsets from the same cut surface
« Reply #2 on: Monday, 14 October 2013 - 14:44:02 »
Hello mikey, yes spring/summer is a good period for it, so you can give time to make offsets during the season.
We cut this one late and offsets are a bit small now.
Actually we have plants that made offsets from 3 cm diameter, sometimes if they are smaller the lower part can dry up.
We cut the plant in two parts, the upper one a bit bigger
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Re: different offsets from the same cut surface
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, 16 October 2013 - 14:31:34 »
I will definitely go for it in the early spring,  ::)
I've got some E. Horizonthalonius grafted on peresk and would like to see if I can get offsets . . .
Do you think I could have more difficulties with this plant than you ?

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Re: different offsets from the same cut surface
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, 16 October 2013 - 14:57:18 »
we do not have big experience with horizonthalonius, but maybe it's easier, cos they produce offsets from the areoles.
With asterias sometimes they sprout from the cut surface and they take a bit more time...
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Re: different offsets from the same cut surface
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, 16 October 2013 - 15:55:41 »
Here you have some pictures of my experience with this method.

Echinocereus davisii fma brevispinus.


BTW, does anybody have any clones of this plant? I'd love to trade one.

Asterias cv

1st July


20th August



Myrio koh-yo

8th June



20 August



I think it's THE best way to obtain clones of difficult/rare plants.
What do you think?

Victor.
"Life is full of cacti, but you don't have sit on them"

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Re: different offsets from the same cut surface
« Reply #6 on: Friday, 15 November 2013 - 16:18:10 »
it's a good method for sure! myrios tend to produce offsets from the areoles and not on the cut surface like asteris.
here there is an update:

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Re: different offsets from the same cut surface
« Reply #7 on: Friday, 15 November 2013 - 18:30:35 »
as i've immagined the pups that come out of variegated plants rarely are variegated, it usually are or totally green or totally yellow,the mosaicism dont work on pupps!


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Re: different offsets from the same cut surface
« Reply #8 on: Monday, 07 April 2014 - 22:42:08 »
update:



1 green offset
6 yellow offsets
1 variegated offset
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Re: different offsets from the same cut surface
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, 08 April 2014 - 09:09:40 »
It tells us a lor about variegation genetics! I have a grafted seedling of variegated myrio that has completely different buds, some pure green, some red, some variegated. When we Select mother plants to improove our variegated lines we should think about it!

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Re: different offsets from the same cut surface
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, 08 April 2014 - 10:51:21 »
some yellow offsets sprouted also from the green part of the plant, you can see from the above photos when they were smaller.
Will see the development :)
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Re: different offsets from the same cut surface
« Reply #11 on: Monday, 22 September 2014 - 19:04:33 »
most all of the offests were yellow, only one totally green and one variegated
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