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Offline WinSikarin

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Miracle Kabuto ??
« on: Saturday, 28 March 2015 - 20:08:55 »
Hello everyones,

My name is Win, from Thailand. I just re-start my collections.

I'm still curious about the definition of 'Miracle Kabuto'. In Thailand, cactus collectors define that 'Miracle Kabuto' is 'Star-shape Kabuto'. But, reading Japanese book, Cactus Handbook by Tony Sato and from some topics and comments in this forum, 'miracle' is defined with characteristics of the white fleck and flat shape despite star-shape or not. So, I'm still unsure about this.

I'd posted a photo of my lastly collected A. asterias. Are there 'miracles' ?

Thank you for all comments and please forgive me for my bad English. ^^"

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Re: Miracle Kabuto ??
« Reply #1 on: Sunday, 29 March 2015 - 22:46:09 »
G'morning WinSikarin

Unfortunately they are not Miracle Kabutos.
I do not know their age and size but I can not see any characters of a typical miracle kabuto.

If you could tell me the size and age, I can show you some  photos.
Miracle kabuto will change the appearance, depends upon the age.

Frank

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Re: Miracle Kabuto ??
« Reply #2 on: Monday, 30 March 2015 - 11:48:59 »
Hello Frank,

Thank you for your answer.

These plants are about 3 cm in diameter but I'm not sure about their age, 2-3 years, I guess.

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Re: Miracle Kabuto ??
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, 31 March 2015 - 02:02:44 »
The main character of miracle kabuto is the mutation of white flecking.
Since the original one was just 1 plant and crossed with various forms of kabutos in history, seedlings show various faces even if both parents were miracle kabutos. You have to select true miracle kabutos from among seedlings.

The photo is 3 years old selected miracle kabutos.
You can not select 1 year old seedlings because they do not show any evidences of miracle kabuto at all.
I selected twice when they were 2 years old and 3 years old.
They are 3~4 cm diameter, in 5 cm square tubes.
None have shown the mutation yet.


This photo is one of them.
You can see vertical lines connected areoles.
These lines are the evidence of a miracle kabuto.
The mutation will start along the lines in future.
I select seedlings referred to these lines.
I can not see these line on your cacti.


I attached a photo showing the starting of mutation.
The mutation will start suddenly but you do not know when.
The shape of flecking should be similar to a petal of cherry blossom.


Offline WinSikarin

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Re: Miracle Kabuto ??
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, 31 March 2015 - 03:12:36 »
Dear Frank,

I feel very grateful, thank you so much for your kind answer.
Now, I understand what you mean by 'suddenly change' and what characteristic that make 'miracle' so my plants are not 'miracle' for sure.

One more thing I'd like to confirm, so the shape are not matter ?? Even round shape or star shape, if the flecks begin to change as you described, it is 'miracle' .

Again, your plants are very beautiful, inspire me to do more on my beloved hobby. Thank you.

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Re: Miracle Kabuto ??
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, 31 March 2015 - 05:21:28 »
The original miracle kabuto found in 1980s was a flat sea-star shaped.
We could see a flat sea-star shaped kabutos before that time in another kabutos e.g. Texas kabuto.
This shape was transferred to various kabutos.
I have flat sea-star shaped super kabuto and hanzono kabuto.

You can call it as a miracle kabuto if it had flecking mutation of miracle kabuto, with any shapes.
Japanese believe that a flat one is a good kabuto.

I think true miracle kabutos in Thailand.
Your plants may be propagated from seeds of miracle kabuto but "out of selections".
I normally return them in soil but someone kept and sold.

 

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